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MarkSheppard August 27th, 2007 10:38 PM

Some more \"Never Beens\" for the USA
 
Sperry's Proposal for the DIVAD system:

http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/1...gilantebz8.jpg

Was based off their earlier T37 VIGILANTE AA Gun, but rechambered in 35mm NATO instead of 37mm.

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General Electric's Proposal for the DIVAD system:

http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/8...u8divadij7.jpg

Utilizing their GAU-8A AVENGER cannon system.

RecruitMonty August 28th, 2007 02:34 PM

Re: Some more \"Never Beens\" for the USA
 
The bottom one looks good. What Chasis is that?

PlasmaKrab August 28th, 2007 03:48 PM

Re: Some more \"Never Beens\" for the USA
 
These are some kind of Patton chassis, right?
Don't tell me all of the DIVAD contenders used the old M-48 drivetrain that far in time? How on earth were they supposed to keep pace with the new-generation vehicles?
I mean, that was supposedly one of the reasons the Sargent York was never produced. Was it a design requirement to start with?

Both mighty Gatling concepts sound fun though! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Marek_Tucan August 28th, 2007 04:14 PM

Re: Some more \"Never Beens\" for the USA
 
Just a side thought, whay wasn't the development based on Bradley or M113 (or one of its knockoffs)? After all the turrets were for sure less armored than Patton so the "heavy" chassis armor wasn't the requirement, was it?
Or, wanting to have it on tank chassis, why wasn't the development kept in Abrams family? I mean M1 chassis without composite armour and most likely shortened (smaller turret) might be "relatively" cheap as well, no?

Other than that, the GAU-8/A design looks cute http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

baggypants August 28th, 2007 05:43 PM

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Suhiir August 28th, 2007 10:45 PM

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From what I recall the biggest problem was they got "creative" with the electronics and software (such as it was in those days) and they could never get the system to perform all the tricks they wanted it to.

baggypants August 29th, 2007 01:02 AM

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PlasmaKrab August 29th, 2007 02:42 AM

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What I gathered from available sources is that the F-16-based radar was just behaving too dumb for AAD missions, e.g. not being able to pick out aircrafts and helos against ground clutter, mistaking the raised gunbarrels for trees or targets, in general not being able to track a crop duster along a field...
By the way, are more details available about the radar/FCS suites of the other contenders depicted above? I guess they didn't make it past the selection for cost issues, so maybe they had some interesting solutions? The Sperry radar suite looks a strong bit like that of the Sergent York's.

Still thinking aloud, how come nothing viable could be produced in all that mess? In the late 70s-early 80s, there were already a number of decent SPAAGs with radar FC available. Weren't some Gepards purchased and "evaluated"? Some captured ZSU-23s shadily imported from Israel? Even some other European systems like the Marksman considered for procurement or adaptation?

MarkSheppard August 29th, 2007 05:18 AM

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Weren't some Gepards purchased and "evaluated"?

One of the proposals -- I think it was Raytheon's -- was basically to take the Gepard turret and put it onto the M48 chassis -- it would have had about 94% commonality with the European version.

baggypants August 29th, 2007 05:07 PM

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