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Smersh May 20th, 2006 05:19 PM

soviet SMG company missing
 
According to the red army handbook ,each infantry regiment contained a smg company (company hq, 3 plts, 3 sqds each). as for as I know this isn't in the soviet obb

DRG May 20th, 2006 05:57 PM

Re: soviet SMG company missing
 
Tank Desant Co

Desant Platoon

all SMG

Don

Smersh May 20th, 2006 08:07 PM

Re: soviet SMG company missing
 
Tank Desants represent tank riders, not the regimental level smg company these had 9-10 man squads.

there are is already alot of smg squads, just not a smg company formation.

edit: the tank desant company also has different organization.

DRG May 20th, 2006 10:00 PM

Re: soviet SMG company missing
 
OK. I'll look into that.

Don

DRG May 20th, 2006 10:16 PM

Re: soviet SMG company missing
 
What info you have for a start date for that formation? I find October 1941 mentioned a few places

Don

Smersh May 20th, 2006 10:48 PM

Re: soviet SMG company missing
 
according to the red army handbook

it first appears in the July 41 TO&E

the smg company remained the rest of the war, guards regiments had 2 smg companys. According the December 44 TO&E another one was added to "regular" infantry regiments, giving them parity with the guards reg. (although this isn't important in game terms)

DRG May 21st, 2006 12:12 AM

Re: soviet SMG company missing
 
OK good.

I have some info that the tank rider squads were smaller.......8 men rather than 10. What info do you have?

Don

Smersh May 21st, 2006 12:58 AM

Re: soviet SMG company missing
 
the tank desant company in the game is modeled as a 3 plt ,with six squads each, and 5 men squads, unit. there is no official to&e regarding their organization, but this seems to be a little unweildy. I assume it was done to represent ,in the game, desant mobility, or something similar.

I can't find any official to&e information about them. but tank brigades also contained an smg company, it may be that the brigade level smg company was used to make the tank riders (tankodasantniki).


spwaw has them only attached to tank units, under a 10 tank company called "tank desant co", which is the standard 10 tank company with 3 plt of 3 squads of tank riders. they use an 8 men squad. but I'm not sure this number comes from, on paper an smg squad is 9-10 men.

if tank desants are infact just the company level smg squad with special tank riding training, they should be organized like a standard smg company. but to make them distinct should they be given some kind of bonus?

if the current split squad organiztion is to be kept, I don't think their is enough justification to cut it into a 4 man squad.

this "split" organization works when the tank riders are acting as recon. but would make them to weak in fighting indepently,(when their acting like a regular smg company), maybe a solution would be to have two different desant formations, one with the split squad model, and one as a whole sqd.


edit: with all this in mind there is probably not enough warrant to make any changes to the desant formations.

Marek_Tucan May 21st, 2006 03:43 AM

Re: soviet SMG company missing
 
I'd suggest splitting the 10-man SMG squads into two 5-man sections for tank dessants as to allow them being carried by light tanks as well.

Smersh May 21st, 2006 04:06 AM

Re: soviet SMG company missing
 
the tank desant squads are already split into 5 man teams. 6, 5 man teams per platoon.


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