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Argitoth May 12th, 2006 04:43 AM

We love you, Illwinter, but DO NOT DO THIS!
 
from here: http://www.tacticularcancer.com/content.php?id=12

Quote:

Saving the most obvious question for last: Is Dominions 4 the next Illwinter project?

"Changes, add-ons and patches for Dom3 first. There are lots of ideas that could be implemented in later expansions for Dom3. What will happen later we don't know yet. It would be fun to make another type of game, to start from scratch. But it will be hard not to think in terms of Dominions. Perhaps an RPG in the Dominions setting, RTS Dominions, Dominions SPACE, I don't know."

Ok. Space? Who? RTS Dominions? Dominions would have to be stripped of all that we like about it. Many things in Dominions could NEVER be translated. RPG? Hmm, could be nice. If it's got 2D graphics and goes as deep as Dominions except on a more personal level then I'd go for it. If it got 3d graphics and doesn't go as deep as Dominions... no way.

Quote:

Have you ever considered developing a non-fantasy game, such as a modern or historical wargame?

"We've had ideas on space games, Jules-Vernesque gothic-punk, and other stuff, so yes, we have. Not sure what will emerge later on."

NO! NO! NO! NO! NO!!!!!!!!!!! NOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!! WHO AGREES? NO!!! Modern? Historical? BORING! NO! Doing this goes against everything that is Illwinter.

Ok, discuss.

WraithLord May 12th, 2006 05:47 AM

Re: We love you, Illwinter, but DO NOT DO THIS!
 
As much as I love dominions and wish that it gets as much attention as possible from IW, I think that those decisions are for IW to make.

I regard game creation as a form of art and as such no artist wants to forever repeat making the same master piece, so I can sure understand if IW wants to create a space game or something else. I will probably not like such a game (not my thing) but others might.

First things first, let see how dom-III turns out, how many patches add-ons and mods it gets, then start wishing/begging for the fourth installment http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Alneyan May 12th, 2006 07:41 AM

Re: We love you, Illwinter, but DO NOT DO THIS!
 
Hey, I didn't know Argitoth was Illwinter's main action-holder.

That aside, "We've had ideas on space games, Jules-Vernesque gothic-punk, and other stuff" ain't be historical or modern in my book (I'm not seeing steampunk or space travel in modern history), so that particular yell seems to have gone off the target.

DominionsFan May 12th, 2006 08:16 AM

Re: We love you, Illwinter, but DO NOT DO THIS!
 
Well, I only play fantasy and medieval strategy games, sci-fi, cyberpunk etc. are not my gaming worlds. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/cool.gif

Nerfix May 12th, 2006 09:19 AM

Re: We love you, Illwinter, but DO NOT DO THIS!
 
CoE III could be interesting.

Gandalf Parker May 12th, 2006 10:59 AM

Re: We love you, Illwinter, but DO NOT DO THIS!
 
Pros and Cons.
Many people who decide not to play Dominions mention the lack of tactical combat. Ive always responded that I think that would detract from the strategy part of the game, and be nearly impossible to add well to a PbEM style game. But, if Illwinter decided they WANTED to do such a game then I would much rather it was a whole new game.

Space Game? I love Dominions rock-paper-scissors balance at nation level. And the fact that the nations have unique feel that makes the only winning strategy be "find the nation that best matches YOUR style of play". Its VERY hard to get those things right. Plus a space game would really let Kristoffer cut loose on his imagination (even more than Dom does? scarey)

RPG game? I tend to play Dom solo. And I do a fair amount of RPGing it in my head. From some of the great AARs it looks like Im not the only one. Maybe they will do a game where I actually PLAY my pretender on his rise to power. Or remake their CoE game which wasnt bad.

quantum_mechani May 12th, 2006 02:24 PM

Re: We love you, Illwinter, but DO NOT DO THIS!
 
I actually love all the ideas, with the exception of RTS. Particularly the dominions RPG and gothic-punk sound very interesting.

Nerfix May 12th, 2006 03:04 PM

Re: We love you, Illwinter, but DO NOT DO THIS!
 
I've toyed with the idea of Dom RPG

Morkilus May 12th, 2006 05:03 PM

Re: We love you, Illwinter, but DO NOT DO THIS!
 
Coming soon: Dominions: The Gathering trading card game!

I'll have my Dominions theme decks posted here soon... (seriously)

Ed Kolis May 12th, 2006 05:26 PM

Re: We love you, Illwinter, but DO NOT DO THIS!
 
Argitoth, you're just jealous you didn't think of it first http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...ies/tongue.gif
Honestly, they have the right to develop whatever the smeg kind of game they want http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif


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