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Tifone October 4th, 2008 04:53 PM
No Dom3 on Youtube?
 
Well, I was curious today, gave a look and got deeply surprised. :shock:
I'm wondering why none of our gurus are posting the videos of some of their greatest MP battles on YouTube. You find videos about the stupidest games there, and not of this very good one, to celebrate a victory or whatever? I think everybody would really enjoy (and the n00bs like me would also learn a lot) if someone would take the time to record and upload some videos showing the correct (or even failing :rolleyes:) use of communions, battlefield enchantments, thugs and SCs, SC-countermeasures and so on :)
Also if I didn't know about Dom3 and found by chance some of its great battles, I would have fallen in love with it immediately - it could help the community :D

Let me know what you think, if you want ;)

JimMorrison October 4th, 2008 05:18 PM
Re: No Dom3 on Youtube?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tifone (Post 642962)
Also if I didn't know about Dom3 and found by chance some great battles, I would have fallen in love with it immediately - it could help the community :D

Let me know what you think, if you want ;)

Well..... I laughed, the first time I saw a battle play out. >.> But, the review that I had read was so flattering, I kept playing. Now, I think they're cute, and they accurately display what is going on, but they're not really one of my major selling points.

I think the major problem with YouTube, is that at that resolution you may not be able to read the text of what spells are being cast. Between that, and an inability to click on anything to see gear or paths or blesses, might kind of reduce the value of it. Battles saved in a turn file are very cool and informative, but I am not sure about film. :(

Tifone October 4th, 2008 05:38 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by JimMorrison (Post 642971)
Well..... I laughed, the first time I saw a battle play out. >.>
I was thinking about the big MP battles, filled of a variety of late game mythological summons, huge armies and deadly magic shows :happy: Maybe not so impressing as Oblivion videos, but still a nice show of which emotions the game can provide.

Quote:
Originally Posted by JimMorrison (Post 642971)
I think the major problem with YouTube, is that at that resolution you may not be able to read the text of what spells are being cast.
YouTube actually supports high resolution videos - they just take more time to load ;)

Quote:
Originally Posted by JimMorrison (Post 642971)
Between that, and an inability to click on anything to see gear or paths or blesses, might kind of reduce the value of it.
Well, the maker of the video would be supposed to take 1 minute or so to show the most important units, explain briefly the gear and the blesses clicking onto them and maybe through vocal comments or textual notes on video... Like other people do for other strategy games. Really, looking at the amount of time some of us spend in making great mods and guides, showing how much they like the game... recording a good, informative video seems trivial compared to that :)

Quote:
Originally Posted by JimMorrison (Post 642971)
Battles saved in a turn file are very cool and informative, but I am not sure about film. :(
Surely better than a film, but this supposes the watcher to already know the game, the forum, have the (full? or demo is enough?) copy and enough knowledge of the game to figure out what is happening on screen by himself :D

Ballbarian October 4th, 2008 05:52 PM
Re: No Dom3 on Youtube?
 
There are some videos on the tube:

<object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/JQQxYEroMsA&hl=en&fs=1"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/JQQxYEroMsA&hl=en&fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object>

<object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/b2RCiR4nt5U&hl=en&fs=1"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/b2RCiR4nt5U&hl=en&fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object>

<object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/RYoEKm8dN_w&hl=en&fs=1"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/RYoEKm8dN_w&hl=en&fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object>

<object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/1DIrh3J3iOY&hl=en&fs=1"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/1DIrh3J3iOY&hl=en&fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object>

<object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/wltCImXJPxk&hl=en&fs=1"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/wltCImXJPxk&hl=en&fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object>

There might be more, but these are some that I found in just a few minutes searching.

Gandalf Parker October 4th, 2008 06:51 PM
Re: No Dom3 on Youtube?
 
There are definetly some. And many from Dom2 also.

But I have always wondered why some of the more interesting battles werent there. Or some nice displays with Gods Eyes showing a really big game with lots of owned provinces. Or maybe a tutorial.

A talking AAR would be fantastic. Like a little fantasy movie.

Ballbarian October 4th, 2008 06:56 PM
Re: No Dom3 on Youtube?
 
Oh, and just for good measure:

<object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/cQZwmFznRk4&hl=en&fs=1"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/cQZwmFznRk4&hl=en&fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object>

:popcorn:
:D:D:D

Nikelaos October 4th, 2008 07:09 PM
Re: No Dom3 on Youtube?
 
hah must say, the bog beast made me lol

coobe October 4th, 2008 10:38 PM
Re: No Dom3 on Youtube?
 
i posted the very first dom video on youtube for dom2 i believe :)

my plan was to get the nicest battles... but the resolution was really crappy

Tifone October 5th, 2008 03:34 AM
Re: No Dom3 on Youtube?
 
Oh, the lovely Bog Beast :p

Those videos you posted I already found ;) Some are Dom2; those are not bad but not particularly the high-end strategies you read on guides and you would love to see in action, set up by a game's expert :o

Gandalf Parker October 5th, 2008 10:39 AM
Re: No Dom3 on Youtube?
 
Im surprised that the BogBeast didnt dance.

Johan K October 5th, 2008 11:01 AM
Re: No Dom3 on Youtube?
 
That was a funny bog beast video!

Meglobob October 5th, 2008 12:21 PM
Re: No Dom3 on Youtube?
 
Go go bog beast, it has to be the most funny sprite in Dominions.

Its got all the comedy value to be in a Shrek film!

Bwaha October 5th, 2008 01:36 PM
Re: No Dom3 on Youtube?
 
Truly excelent. Thanks.:D

Gandalf Parker October 5th, 2008 03:41 PM
Re: No Dom3 on Youtube?
 
There are a number of units in Dom taht would be fun to tube. Something along the line of the Chieftans Band in WoW. Use some of the units to create a musical band and have them play to a song. Or dancers.

Id love to see a Pan Party. Wine, Women, and Witchery.
Zombies head-banging or moshing creates a situation for comedy.

Tifone October 5th, 2008 03:46 PM
Re: No Dom3 on Youtube?
 
JimMorrison already has a C'tissian dancer ^_^

Dedas October 7th, 2008 12:29 PM
Re: No Dom3 on Youtube?
 
C'tissian lizards are cute!

llamabeast October 7th, 2008 01:11 PM
Re: No Dom3 on Youtube?
 
Good work on the bog beast Ballbarian! Awesome!

Tifone December 14th, 2008 11:48 AM
Re: No Dom3 on Youtube?
 
Just to necro a dead topic, if someone has a great battle on some turn (old MP game, ongoing MP games when they'll finish), he can post the turn file here and I'll take care of posting it on YouTube if he likes so :)
I think it could be entertaining and educational, lol :D

Horst F. JENS December 14th, 2008 12:29 PM
Re: No Dom3 on Youtube?
 
i like your idea.

Gandalf Parker December 14th, 2008 01:25 PM
Re: No Dom3 on Youtube?
 
Im also considering some other YouTubes.

Taking screen shots of a god-build and the first few turns. Then turning it into a video with commentary. Kindof a short video tutorial to give people an idea of how many options the game has.

Taking screen shots of the scoreboard as a large game progresses, then put them together into an animated progression.

Taking screen shots of the scores.html screens and doing the same.

Putting screen shots with an AAR.

(this is the only hard one) Working on a "Watchers" nation mod so that one nation can stay in an extremely large long running game on automatic and take occassional screen shots of the map with god view on. Same animation, maybe with commentary. The game can run all AI with automatic continual hostings to get a mega game on a max map thru a few hundred turns. Not sure if I can automate the screen shots.

Anyone can grab and run with any of those ideas if you want to contribute to the game. A very basic video editing program usually comes with your computers operating system.

Tifone December 14th, 2008 01:31 PM
Re: No Dom3 on Youtube?
 
Woo, woo, those all sounds big except the first one :D

I'd start with some simple battles before :) We could create a TouTube specifical user/channel to post those videos - so who has more time and skillz can fill it with bigger projects.

For now, myself I can just appeal to the gamers to post some nice battle's turn files :p

See ya guys!

Gandalf Parker December 14th, 2008 01:58 PM
Re: No Dom3 on Youtube?
 
From what I have seen, the direct conversion of battles to youtube come off too blured to see much. But Im very noob on the subject as to whether that can be fixed by changing settings at our end.

Dectilon December 14th, 2008 02:28 PM
Re: No Dom3 on Youtube?
 
There's a finished LP of Dom3 on the SomethingAwful forums (and it's really good ^^). They didn't put their videos on youtube though. I think they're on viddler.

Gandalf Parker December 14th, 2008 02:53 PM
Re: No Dom3 on Youtube?
 
do you have a link?

Dectilon December 14th, 2008 02:56 PM
Re: No Dom3 on Youtube?
 
Sadly no, unless you're already a member of SA. It's coming to the LP Archive soon though I think. :)

Gandalf Parker December 14th, 2008 03:19 PM
Re: No Dom3 on Youtube?
 
I understand that for SA but I was hoping that the site they put the video didnt have that.

Dectilon December 14th, 2008 04:00 PM
Re: No Dom3 on Youtube?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gandalf Parker (Post 660057)
I understand that for SA but I was hoping that the site they put the video didnt have that.
It's mostly a screenshot LP, but I can post links to some of the battle videos I guess...

Here's one!

Endoperez December 14th, 2008 04:20 PM
Re: No Dom3 on Youtube?
 
While it would be nice to see battle replays, youtube quality is so low and the lack of controls hurts so much that it can be difficult to follow the battle even when you know what's happening.

Also, the videos shouldn't be about 50-turns-long battles with thousands of units. Troops just keep dying and dying, and that's not really interesting. A short battle that quickly ends in a show of superior magical powers would be nice. Preferably something with two-three different spells, so it's not just the same spell spammed 100 times. Something like Machaka throwing Blade Winds and Falling Fires and Magma Eruptions and such, and perhaps a Flaming Arrows too.

Endoperez December 14th, 2008 04:37 PM
Re: No Dom3 on Youtube?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dectilon (Post 660066)
It's mostly a screenshot LP, but I can post links to some of the battle videos I guess...

Here's one!
Wow, that's exactly what I asked for, AND it has a commentary! Thanks for sharing the URL with us.

Tifone December 14th, 2008 04:44 PM
Re: No Dom3 on Youtube?
 
Thanks for the link, that's a perfect example of what I was thinking about :)

rdonj December 14th, 2008 09:15 PM
Re: No Dom3 on Youtube?
 
I think I have a turn file with a pretty major battle from a mod game. Sombre's lizards versus llamabeast's tomb kings. It's not quite the kind of battle endoperez was talking about though.

lch December 14th, 2008 10:09 PM
Re: No Dom3 on Youtube?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gandalf Parker (Post 660031)
Im also considering some other YouTubes.

Taking screen shots of a god-build and the first few turns. Then turning it into a video with commentary. Kindof a short video tutorial to give people an idea of how many options the game has.

Taking screen shots of the scoreboard as a large game progresses, then put them together into an animated progression.
Sounds like you don't know the "Let's Play!" AAR of matryx, because that's exactly what he did. Got over two dozen people (those that we know of) inspired to buy the game after reading through that one.

http://forums.somethingawful.com/sho...readid=2813783

Gandalf Parker December 14th, 2008 11:04 PM
Re: No Dom3 on Youtube?
 
Quote:
Sounds like you don't know the "Let's Play!" AAR of matryx, because that's exactly what he did. Got over two dozen people (those that we know of) inspired to buy the game after reading through that one.

http://forums.somethingawful.com/sho...readid=2813783
Yes that one is fantastic. Llamabeast added it to Shrapnels "Call for AARs" post a year or two back. Gee, but I dont remember it having a video. I will have to go see if he has updated it.

I remember that it reminded me alot of my "Starter Gods" examples for Dom2 which I tried to get some interest generated in Dom3 since there were so many new nations that I couldnt quite get the motivation to do it.

Usually Im the one sounding like an old geezer of the net, but I do have to admit that some people will read an AAR like its a good book. And others, more and more lately, seem to only want it in a video format as if its a TV show. Especially if it comes with animation and commentary. Thats why Im thrilled to give my enthusiastic push to a YouTube project (or something better). I would love to see Matryx do a video of "Let's Play". Maybe I will pitch him the way to do it as a published book and/or a CD which he can sell at an online site and it wont cost him anything to do it.

lch December 14th, 2008 11:07 PM
Re: No Dom3 on Youtube?
 
Yes, it always had video commentary for battles, but he had to move those to another video feed hoster recently, as the one he used previously discontinued the service for records of video games or something.

Horst F. JENS December 20th, 2008 06:42 PM
Re: No Dom3 on Youtube?
 
youtube sucks for dom3 videos. Did a commented turn and uploaded my first youtube video ever: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_bifh7k45eI
given the bad codec/resolution of youtube, it was possibly also my last youtube upload ever :-)
have to look for a better video-sharing site. Too bad, because youtube has big potential for creating new dom3 addicts.

MaxWilson December 20th, 2008 07:00 PM
Re: No Dom3 on Youtube?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Horst F. JENS (Post 661380)
I really liked your narrative. :) And the Lesser Horrors. And the fact that the evil snake god got his comeuppance, it was very satisfying. Nice job!

-Max

JimMorrison December 21st, 2008 02:14 AM
Re: No Dom3 on Youtube?
 
That was awesome. :D

Gandalf Parker December 21st, 2008 01:54 PM
Re: No Dom3 on Youtube?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Horst F. JENS (Post 661380)
youtube sucks for dom3 videos. Did a commented turn and uploaded my first youtube video ever: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_bifh7k45eI
given the bad codec/resolution of youtube, it was possibly also my last youtube upload ever :-)
have to look for a better video-sharing site. Too bad, because youtube has big potential for creating new dom3 addicts.
I should look into what it takes to have Dom3Minions.com host them. I can easily make it available for download, and a link so people can get it. Not so sure about streaming it.
I should look into that.

Horst F. JENS December 21st, 2008 02:53 PM
Re: No Dom3 on Youtube?
 
That would be great.
Sadly i can not host the videos on my own site.
I'm a bit confused about all those different video hosting sites and still try to find out the differences.
My only experience so far is with www.showmedo.com , but that site specialize on open-source tutorials, not games.

Gandalf Parker December 22nd, 2008 12:29 PM
Re: No Dom3 on Youtube?
 
For people following this discussion....
it appears that making a video available is fairly simple altho not the easiest to find out about. Most searches want to steer you to fancy softwares that would be great if you wanted to control access and try to prevent users from downloading a copy.

The simplest answer::doh:
is just a simple html link which leaves the viewing work to the browser at the users end.

From there it gets gradually fancier. Specifying which viewer, or putting it in a window embedded in the web page, or requiring the user to allow java or flash instead of using the viewer on their machine.

Here is a simply lowest-level answer I found if someone else wants to do this on their own webspace.
http://www.wikihow.com/Put-Video-on-a-Web-Page

Yeah I know. Im supposed to just do it and create oohs and ahhs about my server instead of continually saying how anyone can. I get slammed alot for that.

GEEK NOTE: this may just be a temporary answer since as of Aug 2008 there is a W3 workshop toward declaring video a first-class citizen of the web instead of an extension.
www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo


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