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K August 2nd, 2008 08:12 PM

EA Hellscapes(Play!)
 
Server: LlamaServer (automated play-by-email, FAQ below)
http://www.shrapnelcommunity.com/thr...?Number=531116
Hosting interval: Initially 24 hours, 48 at Turn 20, 72 at 50
Age: Early
Graphs: On
Settings: Default except for renaming on, Magic Site at 55% (+10%, which tends to mean that people generally get the gem types they need)
Mods: None (non-negotiable)
Map: 10 land provinces per person. Basically, it is a little larger than Medium Random(learned my lesson from DarkParadise). I'll generate a few and choose home provinces that don't suck.
Players: 8+ (I'll close once 8+ is reached)
Rules: Anything goes. Unless you are hacking files or spamming email/mail, any tactic allowed by the game is considered fair game.

Exception: If you make a Pact with someone, record it in the game thread with the Turn (and record when you end it). If you don't want to record it for any reason (eg. secret pact), then there shouldn't be any complaining about pact-breakers in the game thread.

Nation--Player:
Lanka - K
Hinnon - archaeolept
Neifleheim - Executor
Pangaea - Deadnature
Ry'leh - PsiSoldier
Mictlan - mighty_scoop
Abysia - Aapeli
Fomoria - DonCorazon

archaeolept August 2nd, 2008 08:26 PM

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i'll try the new guys... hinnom... though i am extremely rusty and barely know what a spell is

K August 2nd, 2008 08:38 PM

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That's fine. Baalz's strategy guide on them is pretty comprehensive (and he did just school me with Hinnon in the last game).

Executor August 2nd, 2008 08:43 PM

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Hinnom chosen so soon...
Niefelheim for me.

archaeolept August 2nd, 2008 09:04 PM

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heh, they have some ok troops ;p

i like the look of those chariots http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...es/redface.gif

Deadnature August 2nd, 2008 09:07 PM

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sign me up for Pangea if you don't mind

Executor August 2nd, 2008 09:42 PM

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I like them more because of all the magic paths they have, and the horrors they easily send, and dawn guards and many many other thing, but like the Neifels also!

Lingchih August 3rd, 2008 12:38 AM

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Wow, Lanka, Hinnom, Nief. Nothing but heavy hitters. I guess you guys don't like a challenge, eh? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

archaeolept August 3rd, 2008 12:40 AM

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hey, still some hvy hitters left... mictlan, helheim... sauromatia is no slouch

hopefully there are 8 of them :p

mind you, I haven't actually played an MP game in EA (other than a blitz today), but it looks like it has no lack of power nations

PsiSoldier August 3rd, 2008 10:47 AM

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Never done MP before but I'll join with Mictlan, though Ive never played them before my current Single player game right now.. but my favs have already been picked =/

Unless we can have underwater nations in which case I suppose I'd choose R'lyeh since it may be good to have some extra breathing room for my first MP game.

mighty_scoop August 3rd, 2008 12:52 PM

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I would play R'lyeh or if the poster before wants to play them i would take Mictlan instead of him.

I'm a mp newbie, so hope it will be fine for you that a join.

Edit : I would prefer R'lyeh

K August 3rd, 2008 01:50 PM

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PsiSoldier seems to have called Ryleh first.

Mightly_scoop, is Mictlan OK?

Executor August 3rd, 2008 02:13 PM

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This is gonna turn into a newbie vs experienced players game,
I like it! Newbies unite!!!
Just hope I don't get swarmed again like in Paladin.

archaeolept August 3rd, 2008 02:16 PM

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^^ yah, it's a bit problematic. I can send mictlan advice to whomever takes that - help get a good bless engine going...

Executor August 3rd, 2008 02:29 PM

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Any tactic allowed by the game is considered fair game.

K , Does this include bugs like move and patrol, and to copy/paste Bogus orders and say use ethereal crossbow cause that would be so good!!!

K August 3rd, 2008 02:50 PM

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Quote:

Executor said:
Any tactic allowed by the game is considered fair game.

K , Does this include bugs like move and patrol, and to copy/paste Bogus orders and say use ethereal crossbow cause that would be so good!!!

Yes. I'd rather just play the game rather than try to enforce rules that are unenforceable.

That being said, the Move and Patrol bug was fixed a while back, and none of the remaining bugs actually affect the game much.

For example, Bogus's orders are actually not that good against real armies. I've experimented with them extensively and never even had an opponent notice them being used. They were that bad. If you consider that anyone can get them, I don't think it's unfair in any way.

Aapeli August 3rd, 2008 02:53 PM

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I shall choose Abysia.

Executor August 3rd, 2008 03:20 PM

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Well it could be a disaster against SC like Seraph,
you send in a couple of scouts with ethereal crossbow or something like that, and sooner or later you're gonna kill someone very important.
Just hope I make it that far!

JimMorrison August 3rd, 2008 04:06 PM

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Quote:

Executor said:
Well it could be a disaster against SC like Seraph,
you send in a couple of scouts with ethereal crossbow or something like that, and sooner or later you're gonna kill someone very important.
Just hope I make it that far!

In the case of such an SC, more often than not they are alone. So, not sure who else your guys are going to be shooting at. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

DonCorazon August 3rd, 2008 06:34 PM

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I'll give Helheim a run if there is still a spot.

K August 3rd, 2008 06:56 PM

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Ok, it looks like we have our eight. Here are the map files.

I've contacted llamabest and when he sets up the game to accept pretenders I'll change the first message and send everyone an IM from this site.

Looks like a fun mix!

DonCorazon August 3rd, 2008 08:43 PM

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May be an issue with the map - I am unable to move to any provinces in a couple test runs with it.

archaeolept August 3rd, 2008 08:52 PM

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I can move just fine in my test. :wtf:

edit: no, you're right - only provinces directly connected to my capital have connectivity, and only to my capital. very weird http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...s/confused.gif

further investigation: new game; restarted dom and created a new name... it is still only that one province (that was my starting province in my first try) that has any connectivity. Province 82

Ok, looking in the .map file... only those neighbours are listed lol... file was truncated perhaps?

Executor August 3rd, 2008 09:51 PM

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So, I'm guessing we'll be waiting a little more with the pretenders...

K August 3rd, 2008 10:24 PM

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Uh, the map is FUBARed. I'll make a new one and resend to llamabeast.

DonCorazon August 3rd, 2008 10:33 PM

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Anyone mind if I switch to Fomoria? Been trying to mess around with Helheim and am not a big fan. If it is a prob, I'll stick with Helheim. Thanks.

K August 3rd, 2008 10:54 PM

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Ok, new map. Hopefully, it's not FUBARed.

archaeolept August 3rd, 2008 11:26 PM

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Don - i can't imagine there's a problem. Helheim is pretty good though http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

oh course their troops are expensive and somewhat fragile, and they don't have such great magic diversity

edit: looks like you've been updated to formoria,

K?

also, map seems to be fine

DonCorazon August 4th, 2008 12:36 AM

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archaeolept:
Yeah, I have never played Helheim but knew it was strong and given all the other heavy hitters - Lanka, Big N, Hin just picked it out of the blue. But in messing around I saw it's not really the type of nation I like. Not magically diverse as you noted and its good mages are cap-only and non-sacred.

So looks like K updated me to Fomoria so I'm good to go.
Looking forward to this game!

K August 4th, 2008 05:42 AM

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Ok, it looks we are set up to accept pretenders. I'm using a beta feature of llamabeast's, so we may have a funny error and will need to resubmit.

It looks OK for now, so let's do it!

- E-mail the file to: pretenders[ at ]llamaserver[ dot ]net
- Crucially, you must have the game name in the subject line of your e-mail

llamabeast August 4th, 2008 01:08 PM

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You won't need to resubmit, in any case, since there's no reason pretender files should get lost.

I should think everything will run pretty much smoothly actually. *crosses fingers*

Executor August 4th, 2008 02:49 PM

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I had no idea making a pretender for Neifelheim would be so damn dificult, but I did it finally!!!
It'll either be brilliant or a disaster...

archaeolept August 4th, 2008 02:52 PM

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i recommend an awake site searching crone

DonCorazon August 4th, 2008 02:54 PM

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good to see the vets helping out the new guy! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

archaeolept August 4th, 2008 03:08 PM

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just covering the "disaster" option :p

Executor August 4th, 2008 03:20 PM

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Thats one way to do it... but somehow super strong bless seems a little better, it took me about 4 bloody hours to decide what to make,
And why would you use the crone, I don't find very good, she has old age, only if your planning to cast twiceborn and make her a wight mage and if lucky get another death level when she dies.

archaeolept August 4th, 2008 03:41 PM

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lol it was not a serious suggestion Executor ;p

Executor August 4th, 2008 09:37 PM

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Damn you! Damn you to hell for joking with me!!!
Bur really, I'm playing a game where someone took a awake site searching pretender and he's doing good, well he was until he met me...

K August 5th, 2008 01:41 AM

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Wow. I just got boned by my own mapmaking skills. I have a province I forgot to mark "no start", so it only has three land neighbors.

Ouch.

archaeolept August 5th, 2008 05:44 AM

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three's not too awful... i once joined an mp game, using the Karan map, and started w/ one land neighbour - a wasteland surrounded by mountains that only had one egress, which was in turn two away from two enemy capitals...

Aapeli August 5th, 2008 08:22 AM

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Finally I shall practise my new strategy which I invented pretty much in the ten minutes I used in creating my pretender. Ok I should admit that the strategy hasnt been yet invented but shall develop during the course of the game (this sounds like I have yet again failed in making a long term plan http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...ies/tongue.gif).

PsiSoldier August 5th, 2008 12:36 PM

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Eh, I think I know where you are.. sucks.. I'm playing a Single player game on the map and I see Pangea started there on my sp.

On the bright side if your where I think you are you have an area to expand into that no one can get to too easily without going past your capitol or flying or something..

PsiSoldier August 5th, 2008 03:09 PM

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Damned Bad luck on my first turn, cursed units and Unrest.. Gee wiz. Off to a great start.

archaeolept August 5th, 2008 03:27 PM

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cursed units is generally pretty irrelevant, unless they got an awake pretender, and usually it's a witch so you get a few gems. Unrest sucks.

If you took misfortune, you can't ***** about it though. If you took luck, you sure can http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif

PsiSoldier August 5th, 2008 04:18 PM

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Eh had Neutral Luck Scales, and Yeah I dont care about the curse, but the income hit sucks.

Executor August 6th, 2008 07:58 AM

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Well I'm off to a very bad start too, there are some really strong indies here...

mighty_scoop August 6th, 2008 09:17 AM

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Quote:

Executor said:
Well I'm off to a very bad start too, there are some really strong indies here...

my initial army just got kicked by some jade maidens ... so yes ... i'm also in the bad start fraction :-(

Executor August 6th, 2008 11:56 AM

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I attacked a province which said 20 light heavy infantry, but it was really 20 heavy cavalry!!! Something alike happened in the next province too!?

PsiSoldier August 6th, 2008 10:38 PM

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Eh.. hope that doesn't happen with me given my already poor income situation. Though I sent my scout before I sent my army, hopefully my scout didn't lie or my army is dead. Guess I'll know when Fomoria completes its turn.

Misery loves company I guess.

DonCorazon August 6th, 2008 11:32 PM

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My turn is in. btw I am West Coast and unless I manage to get up earl,y which is rare, can't get to my turns til the evening. I'll do the next one tonight as well so I am not the hold up.


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