Dawggie Does Dominions - JURRI WINS!!
 

Here's the nitty-gritty:

Late Era

Cumulative Victory Point victory condition: There will be 15 random VP provinces. You need 13 points to win. Points are accumulated every summer (every 12 turns).

Map = Glory of the Gods (MP version)

Renaming allowed

All other Late Era defaults the same.

Hosting: 9:00 p.m. Boston Time; Daily for turn 1-12; Tues-Thurs-Sun for turns 13 & after.

Player list:

1. Jurri - Mictlan
2. Pasha - Ulm
3. Gothmog - Caelum (edit: Gothmog = Dragonfire11)
4. djo - Agartha
5. Wraithlord - Pan
6. Cainehill - Tien Chi
7. Kissblade - Patala
8. Caduceus - Arco
9. Varjostin - C'Tis
10. Ygorl - Atlantis
11. Bluebird - Man
12. okiN - Rlyeh
13. Hako - Van / Midgard (replaced Coobe)
14. Boron - Ermor
15. Shovah - Jomon

Trash talk strongly encouraged! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Jurri is number 1!!
 

Hah, I win! Just look at the list... 1. Jurri! Thank you for the game, guys, wish you'da done better Boron. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...ies/stupid.gif

I give it less than 10 minutes before we get the 15th player.

Re: Jurri is number 1!!
 

Everyone attack qm!

Oh ... he's not in the game ...

Everyone attack Jurri/Boron!

Re: Jurri is number 1!!
 

HA - Jurri & KB wasting no time in delivering the trash. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Re: Jurri is number 1!!
 

To the pain!!

Re: Jurri is number 1!!
 

Patala for me (all the good ones are taken...)

Re: Jurri is number 1!!
 

Hey i am not http://img471.imageshack.us/img471/209/untitled7sn.png so i am not singing rape me my friend http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...ies/tongue.gif.

And btw you just confessed to be necrophil Kiss. Raping undeads, you are indeed pervert http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/eek.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...s/rolleyes.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...ies/tongue.gif

Shovah
 

You got the slot, Shovah!

Re: Shovah
 

Hey guys: check the manual, late Man has no known weakness! I pwn you ALL!!!!

Re: Shovah
 

Eh that part of the manual was most likely written before 2.94, so before LE Man was NERFED into http://games.tiscali.cz/reviews/oblivion/art40f.jpg http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...ies/tongue.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

last pick
 

You go to work on a US holiday, and what do you get? Last pick of nations!

I'll take...well, if you're going to go down in flames, Abysia must be the right choice! Hey wait, they have *lighter* armor than in earlier ages?? Forget that...

OK, with all the undead running around, even though I played them in Council of Wyrms, Marignon is one of my favorites. Beest thou pious & chaste, or we shallst Inquisite thee. In boats!

Re: Shovah
 

There is no point in playing this match. I hear that player Gothmog is really really good.

Gothmog!
 

Hey wait! Gothmog = Dragonfire! No fair!

Re: Gothmog!
 

Some say there is a likeness between Gothmog and Dragonfire, but these are strictly rumors.

Re: Gothmog!
 

Anyone interested in hosting an Early era game at the same time as this one?

Dawggie Does Dominions: Nothing Else Matters
 

You take your outside interests elsewhere, buster! Nothing else matters but this game, the one to start it all, and to end it all.

Re: Dawggie Does Dominions: Nothing Else Matters
 

Hm that sounds too armaggedonish imho. "To end it all" ... .
Too dramatic http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...es/biggrin.gif

Re: Dawggie Does Dominions: Nothing Else Matters
 

Is 15 the limit or can I still join on as utgard?

Re: Dawggie Does Dominions: Nothing Else Matters
 

Sorry, but we're trying to limit the game to 15 players.

There will be another game soon, no doubt! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Please send pretenders
 

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PLEASE SEND PRETENDERS TO: whscom [at] maine [dot] rr (dot) com

Please include "DDD" in the subject line (short for Dawggie Does Dominions).

I hope to start on Wednesday, unless all players do not have the game yet.

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Re: Please send pretenders
 

Just a quick question about the rules: aren't 10 cumulative VPs a little bit low? I mean, if somebody manages to capture only two VPs early, then the whole game will just last 4 1/2 years. If somebody manages to capture 3 and later 4, the game will last only 2 1/2 years. That will make imprisoned pretenders more or less useless.

how many?
 

A bit late, but I'm in the fewer VP camp. I think it won't be easy to hang onto those VPs for year after year. 13 sounds fine to me. Non-capitols, if you please.

Victory Points
 

Thanks for pointing that out, Bluebird.

My hope was to set things up so that the game would likely end by around Turn 60 (5 years) with a chance that it would last longer. (Points are awarded every 12 turns, and so I don't think there can be 1/2 years.)

The original suggestion to me assumed that VP's would be in capitals only, but I don't want that because I believe it makes the capitals of newer players easy, cheap targets.

With that mind, maybe we should raise the winning score to 20.

1/3 of the total VP provinces would be 5. A player would have to be pretty successful early on to achieve that number of points by turn 48.

What do the other players think?

Re: Victory Points
 

I am for raising VP to 20.

Re: Victory Points
 

I'd say 10 is plenty. Someone gets ahead, you pull him back to the gutter. (15 would be in line with the number of players and the number of VPs, though.)

Re: Victory Points
 

I vote for raising it to 25 or 30.

Imho the game should end in the turn 60-100 range http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif.

Re: Victory Points
 

Jurri better prays he doesnt spawn next to me http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...ies/tongue.gif

Re: Victory Points
 

Hopefully he spawns next to me http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif

Re: Victory Points
 

It is not easy to "pull back" someone with cumulative VPs. There is only "being faster".

I am also for 20 points at least. 10 VPs is definelty too small. Also, I think the game starts in Spring, right? VPs are awareded in Summer, right? Thats why I wrote 1/2 years. It should be even less ...

Re: Victory Points
 

Ah... I'm Mr. Popular it seems. It is certainly quite flattering to have my very own fanclub! I shall dub it 'Bottomfeeders - the Jurri fanclub' and Boron will be the chairman.

Bird: you can always stall someone back by taking his VPs away: that means he won't get any more points, while others are. Thus, he is pulled back relative to others. Especially since VPs are not in the capital provinces, they should be grabbable if you're dedicated enough. Not to mention that there are 12 whole turns to grab the VPs after scoring them once. That said, I've naturally not played with them yet, so I'm talking outta my *** here http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Re: Victory Points
 

Please private message me if another game gets rolling. This is what I get for working through the past few days. ;-)

Re: Victory Points
 

You sure they're only counted every 12 months? Remember a _lot_ of things have been described as happening every season, every year, etc, when they occur every month.

Edit : Just tested, and it does occur each summer. Oddly, even with VPs in capitols, capitols don't display a VP symbol, when they probably should.

Dawg\'s Lucky Number 13!
 

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Jurri and I have considered the VP issue closely. Not that we are the big dogs on the block (or at least he isn't)... but here is what we figure:

There are 274 Prov total. 227 land & 47 sea. That is about 18 prov per VP. That's a lot. It will be hard to have a big empire early on.

In any case, after playing out a scenario, we figured that a 13 winning score would be better than 10. It will better ensure that the game does not end TOO quickly unless a player is the total cat's meow.

So, unless there are a lot of objections, the winning score will be 13. That is, DAWG'S LUCKY NUMBER 13!!!

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Calling All Petenders
 

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PLEASE SEND PRETENDERS TO: whscom [at] maine [dot] rr (dot) com

Please include "DDD" in the subject line (short for Dawggie Does Dominions).

I hope to start on Wednesday, unless all players do not have the game yet.

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Re: Calling All Petenders
 

> Edit : Just tested, and it does occur each summer. Oddly, even with VPs in capitols, capitols don't display a VP symbol, when they probably should.

Known bug. Fixed recently IIRC.

Edit: so it might be unfair to have VPs in capitols. I don't remember if it is just the display or if they are actually missing.

Argatha - - - > Tien Chi
 

Cainehill has decided to switch to Tien Chi.

So, if one of the current players would like to switch to Argatha, just let me know.

I think all players now have the game. So please get me your pretenders by 9:00 pm Boston Time tonight. Then we will start!

Possible delay
 

A player has requested a little extra time for pretender design due to work concerns today. So, we might start the game tomorrow morning instead. After all, this is just a game, and it's better that we get a good start so everyone has fun! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Re: Possible delay
 

Switch me to agartha please (this free's up patala), that extar design time will help.

Re: Possible delay
 

hmm... tempted to swap to patala. Can I lay temporary claim to both? =)

Re: Possible delay
 

Ok. Shovah - You're Agartha.

Kissblade - you're free to hold Patala and Jomon, but please decide quickly in case someone else wants Patala or Jomon.

And, of course, don't forget to send me your pretenders, and be sure to password protect them! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Re: Possible delay
 

I'll claim Patala. I have a pretty nifty weird strat with them. =) Of course it can fail and cost me the game hehe ...

Re: Possible delay
 

Kissblade : if you're keeping Jomon, please say so - I'd love to grab Patala (sucked having last choice http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif )

Re: Possible delay
 

heh look above.

Re: Possible delay
 

You want Jomon, Cainehill?

Re: Possible delay
 

Nah - looked at them, but will stay with the Barbarians.

Re: Possible delay
 

I would love jomon so now agartha is free aswell (it and dreamland were my 2 main choices with atlantis a close third)

Re: Possible delay
 

Ok then. Shovah... you are hereby appointed as Jomon.

Re: Possible delay
 

Woo-hoo! It all works out for djo!

I had last choice in the first round, and Agartha was one of my first choices!

I hereby claim Agartha and relinquish Marignon. My pretender will be emailed by 7 or 8 pm EDT tonight, guaranteed.

In case of any further confusion or delay, Pasha has permission to use my already-mailed Marignon pretender.

Re: Possible delay
 

Ok! djo, you're Agartha! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Re: Possible delay
 

haha... anyone want to do more musical nations?