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Slynky posted:

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I wouldn't think it would complicate things. Geo had one a while back but it has gotten buried. He was creating games for people, as well, and posting the specifics in the thread.

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Hmmm... That's exactly what I planned to do. I definitely don't want to step on Geo's toes, though. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

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No one wants to step on Geo's toes http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif .

I didn't mean it in that way either. I just mentioned that Geo had started a thread and that it kind of fell down a way...perhaps due to the Bash tourney going on. I also mentioned it to add that he was also creating the games. That's all. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

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Huh? Oh, don't worry about me. I have my hands full as it is. If someone else wants to push some games out there I have no problem with it. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

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Oh, don't worry about me.

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But we do, Geo! If it weren't for you a lot of us would never get to play against other humans. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Great! I hope this'll make it easier for players to find opponents. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

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I guess I'll use this thread.
1 player looking for oppontent.

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Hi all!

I'm starting this thread in order to give rated players someplace specific to post challenges, game requests, and responses to challenges. (For more info on the Ratings system please check out this site.) If the idea catches on I'll check the thread daily for new challenges and update the title with "New Challenge" and the post date.

Does this sound OK, or am I overcomplicating things? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

[ February 16, 2004, 12:41: Message edited by: Nodachi ]

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I wouldn't think it would complicate things. Geo had one a while back but it has gotten buried. He was creating games for people, as well, and posting the specifics in the thread.

That thread must have "become old" due to all the activity in the "Bash" that's going on.

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">I might be interested in this. I just normally am opposed to High Tech starts is the only reason I hesitate. I think I have played 2 or 3 ever (other then for testing things) and didn't really care for them. Do you play high tech a lot, find it interesting?

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I've found that high tech games open you up to a different set of tactical questions and possibilities. Expansion is easy because you can colonize any world you find but that goes hand-in-hand with micro-management and the headache of finding out you built the wrong colonizer. OTOH, militarily you really get to show off your ship designs and combined arms tactics. I've learned a lot about the game this way, not that it's helped me in KOTH. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif As for interesting, the elimination of being able to get a tech advantage over your opponent can make for hairy situations, so yes, I'd say I find them interesting. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

I'd be willing to go with colonize own type only to reduce the micro-management if you'd like.

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">No, I don't think that would be neccesary. Maybe if we could keep to a smallish map, that would keep things from getting too out of hand.

Perhaps since this is to be a rated game and you seem to have some experience in high tech you'd be a sport and give me some friendly pointers before hand. Not your whole strategy or anything, but stuff to think about that is different then a normal game, so I don't do too many stupid things. I'd like to give you a good game of it. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

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I'm sure I don't need to point out the obvious one, drop your intel to 50 and spend the 800 points elsewhere! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

Remember that monoliths are extremely expensive and that too many being built at once will cripple your economy.
Same thing goes for planet modification facilities.
All worlds have value once the atmosphere has been converted.
Resource conVersion can save your butt.
At the very beginning you need to keep in mind that your space yards use more resources each turn than in a normal game.

These are just a few things I can think of. Ask around, I'm sure there's more that I can't bring to mind. Tesco was always better at this than me. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

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Mad Max style!
I'll take you up on that offer Nodachi.
Do you want to go head-to-head or see if another 2 people want to join?

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Baron, thanks for taking me up on this one! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

I'm getting ready for work right now so what we can do is wait till I get home in the morning to see if anyone else is interested. Then we can hash out any other details.

I look forward to matching up with you!

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That sounds good, it will give me time to update myself on this mod. I haven't played it since pre-gold and as such, I'll take your suggestions as to settings.

Come on folks, step right up and join the world of Junk. Come and see if you can be the ruler of the galaxy with your very own Mad Max style, sticky taped together shipships. Or will your empire rust away while still looking for how to build Ion Engines I?

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Here's a couple from me (naturally we'd get someone else to set them up) http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

Luck of the Draw Challenge
This one would use Puke's Junkyard Mod 2.1(gold). This will test your ability to improvise. If you don't know about this mod it can be found on PBW and here's the readme:
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Number of players: 2(or more if interested)
Starting resources: 100000
Starting planets: 1
Home planet value: Good
Score display: Own
Technology level: NA
Racial points: Negotiable
Quadrant type: Standard Mid-Life
Quadrant size: Medium
Event frequency: Low
Event severity: Low
Technology cost: NA
Victory conditions: Last man standing
Maximum units: max
Maximum ships: max
Computer players: none
Computer difficulty: NA
Computer player bonus: NA
Neutral empires: No
Other game settings: No intel, no stellar manipulation, no ancient race

High Tech Challenge
This one'd be a fairly normal one-on-one game. All settings negotiable. I'd like; no intel, no stellar manipulation (this can be a gentlemens agreement if you want to have monoliths), no ancient race.

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Well Baron, looks like it'll just be the two of us. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Number of players: 2(or more if interested)
Starting resources: 100000
Starting planets: 1
Home planet value: Good
Score display: Own
Technology level: NA
Racial points: Negotiable
Quadrant type: Standard Mid-Life
Quadrant size: Medium
Event frequency: Low
Event severity: Low
Technology cost: NA
Victory conditions: Last man standing
Maximum units: max
Maximum ships: max
Computer players: none
Computer difficulty: NA
Computer player bonus: NA
Neutral empires: No
Other game settings: No intel, no stellar manipulation, no ancient race

We still need to decide on racial points. Other than that are these settings good for you?

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Hmm, I guess Nod is off now.

Anyone here got time for a game this afternoon (EST) ? I figure we could get the first 10-20 turns in in a couple hours. Before things start gettign complicated in game. Things are slow here at the holidays.

Geoschmo

[ December 23, 2003, 15:54: Message edited by: geoschmo ]

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I guess I should finially step up to the challenge of the Great Eye.
I'll be Online for another 6 hours if you are up to a Standard Koth match, no intel or Ancient races?

Geo, Can also host the Nod-Grazic Junk Yard game?

Nodachi - 2000 point Race? I've just created one.

[ December 23, 2003, 20:28: Message edited by: Baron Grazic ]

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Oops, looks like Geoschmo is off now. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif

Edit - Gramma.

Edit 2 - Sorry Geo, to slow. If you are still looking on Boxing Day your time, I'll be back and looking for another game...

[ December 24, 2003, 03:52: Message edited by: Baron Grazic ]

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Nod, if you are up for two games at once I'll take you up on your high tech challange. I am working today, but it's pretty slow and I could probably get some turns in.

Geoschmo

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Sorry for the delay guys, I overslept yesterday afternoon and had to rush to work.

2000 points is good Baron. As soon as I finish this message I'll check to see who's up and see if I can con someone into setting it up for us.

Geo, great! Settings? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

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Just got your message, Nodachi. I'll set the game up...is it just standard or does it somehow need the Junkyard mod to do it?

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Sorry Baron, missed you. I will be back at work on Friday 8 to 5 Est and looking for a game if you are available then.

I can start now and may be able to play a few turns tommorow, but won't be Online the whole time like I will on Friday.

Nod, how about koth defaults other then no ancient, no intel, and high tech. And if we could get the game owner or someone to set up the map so we are away from each other a bit that would be good too.

Geoschmo

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Hi guys!

Slynky, first, thank you! Yeah, it does need the mod to work right for both the map and the tech tree.

Geo, settings sound good. I probably won't get much play time in tomorrow but Friday I'll be availible. Any suggestions on who to set this up for us?

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Doesn't matter. I wouldn't care if you set it up even. Except I guess we'd need someone to make a map. But if who ever makes the map could be game owner too that'd be great.

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Well, I've had enough people make me maps that I feel obligated to try to re-iterate. If someone can tell me where to get the mod and if it comes with some instructions, I'll try to get it set up. Also, if I need to edit starting positions, will it be OK to use the editor with it?

Just let me know.

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">The game is out there...but for 2 people, Baron Grazic and Nodachi. Would I need to increase the player count or would it be 2 games of 2 people...(I'm so confused http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...s/confused.gif ).

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">The game is out there...but for 2 people, Baron Grazic and Nodachi. Would I need to increase the player count or would it be 2 games of 2 people...(I'm so confused http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...s/confused.gif ). </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">No no, two different games. Nod and Grazic are playing a game using the junkyard mod. Nod and I are playing a stock game but as a high tech start. The map for our game doesn't need anything special. Just a random small map with no ruins. You could make it with the map generator, or in the game and then edit it with the map editor and put two starting positions with some distance between them.

Geoschmo

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There! See what a little explaining will do? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

One game coming up, Geo. When the empires are ready, I'll get you guys a randomly-generated interesting-looking map with edited start points.

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Geoschmo Agogo vs Nodachi Marachi. ROFL!

You've turned empire names into an artform Slynky. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Well, it's about the most fun I can have doing it, I figure. It grinds my groin to host games and see all of them running (the Messages that come in during play) while I sit staring at no turns for my games... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif .

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Well, hey, aren't we about due for another game? Doesn't look like Nod is on right now. You and I could start our rematch and get a few turns in before I collapse tonight.


Uh, by the way Nod, when you read this. I got one more settings question about our game. We gonna allow religous? Seems like a pretty obvious choice for a high tech game. So I figure we can both choose it, or we can agree not to take it. I'll leave it up to you.

Geoschmo

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What kind of game do you have in mind and how late can you play?

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I can probably stay up another hour maybe. If nothgin else we can get started. You know from experience I usually play pretty fast.

I am up for anything. Have any wierd game ideas you've been wanting to try lately?

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Well, I can be pretty weird...reminds me of a C6 game in Mechwarrior...which meant missile weapons only.

So, without thinking...missile weapons only, no mines, 3 good planets...low tech cost. Weird, huh? Adds a dimension, possibly.

[edit - and anything you can put on a fighter]

[ December 25, 2003, 05:12: Message edited by: Slynky ]

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">No PDC even? Sounds interesting. What abotu limiting other techs? I had an idea along these lines the other day. I was playing around with turning off techs at game startup. I ended up turning all the techs off. All that was left was CSM, Plasma missles, DUC's and drones. I thought that might be fun for something different. You want to give that a try? We could leave on some of the techs if you want, stuff liek armor, shields, pdc, sensors if you want even.

Hey, do you have any IM? ICQ, AIM? anything like that?

Geoschmo

[ December 25, 2003, 05:16: Message edited by: geoschmo ]

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I thought about leaving PDs. But that's just a thought. Figured it would make one think about how to balance them against fighters and missiles. Possibly make planets impregnable with loaded PD plats BUT...one has to worry about ground troops.

DUCs can win a game, I think, in missile games. So, I think they are out.

So, PDs, and launched weapons...can't remember if that counts those torpedo things are not...but I suspect the game tells you it's a missile.

Sensors are a must...trust me...(evil grin) (well, depending on your racial settings).

So, launched weapons, PD, fighters (with any weapons), and all the other techs. No mines...no ancient (I know you like that) and no intel?

What say you?

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Sounds good. You want to set it up? I think I hosted teh Last two of our games. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

Torps are direct fire weapons according to the game mechanics, but we can leave them as an option or not. It's up to you.

I am not sure what is neccesary about sensors if all we are usign is missles. Unless you mean for shooting down fighters. I can see some usefulness there I guess. Although PDC do a decent job of that even without them. But I look forward to learning the hard way there is some crucial point I am missing. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

Drones ok?

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I'd prefer you set it up since you are faster and less prone to error and I trust you implicitly. I don't know if I have that trust, so I'd rather let it go with you.

No Torps, then...I just didn't remember. And a word of caution...I was in a game where someone couldn't hit my fighters with PDs...20 fighters killed 40 ships...so beware!

But I will set it up if you insist...my empire is nearly done.

[edit - I might suggest a medium map...just in case...whether you set it up or me.]

[ December 25, 2003, 05:35: Message edited by: Slynky ]

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Ahhhh, I see you can have much fun with empire names, too! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif GOOD ONE!

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First contact in turn 7. Looks like another interesting one. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Well, it's about the most fun I can have doing it, I figure. It grinds my groin to host games and see all of them running (the Messages that come in during play) while I sit staring at no turns for my games... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif . </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Sorry I had to celebrate Chrismas on my Mom's side of the family. I can put in alot of turns tomorrow night (after I celebrate Chrismas on my Dad's side).

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No need to apologize, Para http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif .

We have done quite well with turns and I just gave Geo priority tonight since we were both going through "SE4 withdrawel".

I sneaked a few turns in from work.

I will work on yours now. But Christmas comes first so no one needs to feel obliged to play during that time.

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Thank you again, Slynky! You know, given that you and I are in the same timezone, you seem to keep even weirder hours than I do. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

Geo, we might as well go ahead and allow religious, it'll make ship design simpler. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">OK (crossing fingers), the game is up and hopefully, working OK. In editing the map, I went through EVERY system and removed the starting point (as I can't figure out how to see if a system is declared a starting point). Then I added 2 starting places. It's an interesting map, I think. It's actually a (small) medium map, though. It was generated with no ruins.

Have fun!

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I'm ready for a rated game. All I need is an opponent and someone who sets up the game. Any volunteers? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

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Hmmmm, If you can't find anyone else I'll play you. But try to find someone else first cause we have a potential King Match coming up and we might want to save some suprises for that game. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">I'll set up the map (if you like)...and I'd play a game except for the 6 games I'm in now. So, I'll keep watch.

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">I am ready for another Rated Challenge match. KOTH defaults + No Intel, Tesco map?

Gecko

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Agreed. Slynky promised to set up the map but perhaps he can set up the game as well. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif