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Captain Kwok October 25th, 2002 11:34 PM

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How should the Borg assimilate ships?

Should they use the allegiance subverter and captured ships using that method?

OR

Should they use regenerating boarding parties to capture ships?

I'm leaning towards the second option but I don't like the fact that Borg boarding ships could easily be destroyed by a self-destruct device - but at the same time, might be helpful in balancing out the advanced Borg techs...

Suicide Junkie October 26th, 2002 12:13 AM

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Will the AI even try to board if there is a self destruct device present?
Anyways, the borg can simply use smaller craft to do the actual boarding attempts while the larger cubes provide suppression fire.

Fyron October 26th, 2002 12:19 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by Suicide Junkie:
Will the AI even try to board if there is a self destruct device present?
Anyways, the borg can simply use smaller craft to do the actual boarding attempts while the larger cubes provide suppression fire.

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I think it will. I have seen my boarding ships go and board large ships with SDDs on them, and they go boom.

jimbob October 26th, 2002 01:10 AM

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I think that the SDD should be jetisoned from the game altogether! What a silly and widely abused device.

That said, I know that some people just love 'em (mostly because they abuse them IMHO http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif ). And so here are my very opinionated opinions.

i) I think that the SDD should be much larger in size (say 25kT), so that it will a) be taken out by incoming fire more frequently and b) people will have to really consider whether they want to give up that much space for the privelege to go hari-kari.

ii) I also think that the SDD should appear much later in the tech tree to give some time for races to actually use boarding parties. If you recieve SDD at only level 3 propulsion... my goodness that's atleast 30 turns before anyone has even thought about getting advanced military let alone built them into any ships.

iii) I think that SDD should be grouped with say engines or weapons or something targetable by special weapons to give Groups like the borg a chance to shoot it out.

iv) it would be nice to decrease the size of the defense and boarding parties to bring up their use a little too.

That's it, I feel much better now http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

Captain Kwok October 26th, 2002 02:24 AM

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Greetings.

I was also thinking of adding an 8th race - who do you guys think would be worthy?

Perhaps the Breen? 8472? Gorn?

Gandalph October 26th, 2002 03:25 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by Captain Kwok:
Greetings.

I was also thinking of adding an 8th race - who do you guys think would be worthy?

Perhaps the Breen? 8472? Gorn?

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Yes, Yes, and Yes. Oh wait, that's 10. Yes!

ZeroAdunn October 26th, 2002 05:43 AM

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You should add them as minor empires. Give them some cool bonus facilities and weapons to make them less of a pushover. Like the breens energy disruption weapon.

Magnum357 October 26th, 2002 09:57 AM

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Hey Captain, I vote for option two (Regenerating Boarding parties) and get rid of the SDD. I just don't like the idea where a borg cube lauches its boarding borg, then all of sudden the Fed ship and the Brog ship are blown up because a SDD is onbaord.

I personally would like to see the Gorn or maybe the Tholians. The Breen would be easy, but it seems we know less then what we do with the Gorn and the Tholians. The Tholians at least were talked about a couple times in DS9 and I heard rumors that DS9 was thinking about introducing the Gorn again in DS9 too. The Breen are a fan favorite too, but like I said, we know very little about the race.

[ October 26, 2002, 09:02: Message edited by: Magnum357 ]

ZeroAdunn October 26th, 2002 10:03 AM

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Actually, we know quite a bit about their race after the whole dominion war, but I digress...

Yes, possibly making the SDD an armor component?

Pax October 26th, 2002 12:24 PM

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Since Trek-style self-destruct involves creating an intentional Warp Core breach ... making the SDD an engine component, so that engine-destroying weapons can take it out of the picture, seems the smartest thing to do, IMO.


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