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no need to sorry :)

postponed by 24.

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I have passed the admin pw to jimbo.

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I've added another 13 hours (long story) to the turn, to give Kailasa more time to get his turn in.

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Hey, no sight of Deadnature just yet - I'll given him another 24 hours, then work out how to proceed.

I'm cautiously optimistic that he is just snowed under with work or some such, as opposed to having been abducted and probed by aliens, but time will tell :-)

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Thats considered an exploit to move a few troops to stop an entire army from moving. But if you need to exploit to take cities, I guess thats how its gonna be.

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Well, I didn't send one commander or something, it was a sizable force, 40 units plus the mage. Granted it was the Boar Mage. I really just wanted to probe though, so I'm sorry if that was an exploit, I really had no intention of stopping your army. It didn't even occur to me, but I guess I misjudged your strategy. I also wanted to kill off those damn boars because they were gobbling up all the food!

Actually, you should be quite happy about what happened. I really wish that you had attacked with everything, maybe you should look at that battle again :)

Wait a second...I just looked at it again. Maybe I didn't stop ANY army there, otherwise that whole force (the one that was supposed to be stopped) wouldn't have caught my scout during the patrol phase. Doesn't that mean you put them on patrol?

So ghoul, are you just saying that "in theory" what I did was wrong? If so that's cool. But it seems like there was no "exploit" as you described it. Correct me if I'm wrong but either way, no hard feelings.

I am also willing to submit my turn to a third party.

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After you stop and army from moving in a city, they automatically switch to patrol for some reason.


Don't tell me you didn't see my gigantic army sitting there . Thats nonsense. It was an exploit and you know it.

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Of course I saw your army there, I pointed that out myself, please don't put words in my mouth and then say they're nonsense.

I told you my rationale, I even said I was sorry if I did use an exploit. Clearly it didn't occur to me that you would cry foul. I have heard that using single commanders and scouts to block armies is considered by many an exploit. But that is not what I did.

Tell you what, if you think that sending an army of any size to the sacrificed, for whatever reason....is wrong...then I'll gladly refrain from doing that for this game and you can do it to your hearts content for all I care.

Also, aside from copying Boguses orders (which is pretty unanimous), now might be a good time to specify exactly what else you think is an exploit, just so that we are clear.

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This is a good idea, I reckon we ought to hash out what we think should be off the table as an exploit.

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There's really not a lot I can think of that haven't been addressed in patches:

Bogus orders

Item-gift spamming to overflow someones item-storage

Life-after-death and deliberately killing tons of priests/mages for the purpose of re-animators/upkeep-free-mages. (though not everyone agrees on this one)

the one about army-blocking, either with scouts/commanders or small, sacrificial armies as ghoul and I just discussed. Although it might be debatable what the threshold is for an army not to be sacrificial, I think we can agree that the army sent should be able to do SOMETHING significant (damaging) aside from just blocking/probing and dying, which I think was ghouls grief, correct me if I'm wrong.

What else? I'm sure there's something....

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Ok I think we can end this game now. I thought if all 3 of of us attacked kailasa, we might have a chance.

But sauro and ermor are attacking me for some unknown reason.

So lets just end this.

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sauro hasnt been attacking u.

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That was a devastating turn for you ghoul, clearly a turning point, you fought hard though, so if you want to throw in the towel I understand. Either way, good game.

We shouldn't say too much here while the game is still going, but....

Ermor is, in fact, attacking me. He crushed a huge invasion force I sent into his turf and is now starting to cause even more trouble. He's not really attacking Nief, because that eastern territory is occupied by me for now, so its more opportunistic I guess.

Sauro is prob also being an opportunist. It seems like he's trying to snatch up some quick turf while I'm busy.

But the main point is that you might not feel you have a chance against my advantages at this point, I'm not sure if I agree (anything could happen) but it seems like you could be right.

I don't really care who wins though, I'm fine to keep playing or call it, whatever people want.

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Sauro just went AI, and now the AI is attacking me. So yea I think the game is over.

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grats on the victory

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i think after my defeat by ur mighty giants and my resign as prime witch king, u left sauromatia so crippled, that it hadnt been able to significantly alter the flow of events.

u say no chance versus kailasa? even 2 vs 1?

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Yeah, I've been busily trying to get back into the fight against Kailasa. I have to say, its been heaps of fun fighting the monkeys, I've really had to apply myself just to stay in the game :)

With the northern fort of yours Ghoul, my plan had been to try and smash the Kailasa SC that has been running around causing you so much pain.

Do we want to fight on, or call it for Kailasa? I'm happy either way - I'm confident that I can certainly causes the Mighty Monkeys some trouble, and die hard in the mountains of Ermor :-)

Kailasa really has played an excellent game, so if we call it here it will be a well deserved Victory to Deadnature. Amusingly enough, I am just about to get back to almost exactly the same set of provinces that I had before we started fighting, so perhaps that is a good point to stop and salute our new god and master?

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I guess our triple-stale just about settles it....

This has been one of the most enjoyable dom3 games that I have ever played. Everyone here has played a great game and very sportingly too.

Right from the beginning, fighting a desperate war with the Firbolgs, I thought I would be resigned to surviving and nothing more. Then when I finally defeated my long-time foe, he took refuge under the waves to harass me some more...awesome, I really liked that aquatic empire.

Then, as the Nief giant grew monstrous, I struggled with Ermor, won some small victories and was eventually dealt a harsh blow when his god nuked my main northern army.

After that, I thought again that there was no chance of me winning. But Ermor and Kailasa were content to lick our wounds and that front stayed quiet until almost the end of the game.

This was very fortunate for me, because I had to teleport/gateway/fly/ocean-travel my whole force to the east to stand a chance against Nief, who was about to crush Sauro.

Ghoul built up a mean, mean, Niefelhiem (I especially liked the earth-empowered Jarls :)) and I said many times to myself that he was sure to win. But I was lucky that my air-bless somewhat countered his rain-of-stones-jarls and my death-bless was perfect for giant-fighting.

Nief was far more powerful than me in terms of raw power, but he lacked the mobility that Kailasa has, especially late game. So we played the guessing game of "where will these raiders fly/teleport to" and I luckily raided some crucial provinces. On that last turn, I basically won that guessing game by placing powerful forces in the way of three counter-raiding armies with devastating results. I guessed right.

After that, ghoul wisely called it, he could have played on but it would have been even more raid-defense against harsher and harsher odds.

Ghoul, you would have really deserved that victory that I snatched, congrats for almost conquering the world, well played.

Good game everyone!

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So it is a win to Kailasa - well done, Deadnature!

I have to say, I was really struggling to put myself back together again after defeating your main army in the north. I basically had my god (Forge lords are actually quite handy, highly recommended chasis) and a single Zmey as SCs, then a bunch of human legionnaries and mages.

I think my biggest restraint was lack of globals. Kailasa overwrote my mother oak (I nearly cried), then on the turn when I tried to get up the fire global (20 fire gems a turn) Kailasa also put up a global and I failed to even get the global up, after burning 90 odd desperately needed fire gems (at this point I did cry, and wail, and shake my fist at the sky).

So I think I am very lucky you decided to mash Hinnom and then head over to annoy Nief, as I really needed some breathing space.

I really enjoyed this game, and learnt quite a lot, so I am keen to play with all of you again at some point in the future.

And thanks to Earcaraxe for organising the game, and modding it.