Re: EA: Master Blaster [NOOB GAME] (LOOKING FOR SUB)
 

Remember to delete your old 2H files.

Interesting communion on that 2nd battle. I think your Air communion master kept the guys from attacking. Also the auto rout at 75% hp losses hit you. Probably better to keep a lot of body guards for your masters to prevent routs and use junk summons to buy time.

Re: EA: Master Blaster [NOOB GAME]
 

It got all messed up with other turn files submitted. Not sure what the best way to deal with this is, can someone look into it?

Re: EA: Master Blaster [NOOB GAME]
 

Did you erase your old 2h file? What is all messed up?

Re: EA: Master Blaster [NOOB GAME]
 

I am sorry, I got a turn and just did it. I am very sorry. What do I need to do to change it?

Re: EA: Master Blaster [NOOB GAME]
 

If people generated new 2h files with the roll back turn they got and submitted those we should be fine, I think, otherwise:

Well we can start a new game or
This:

Debaser8: Anybody have experience with rollbacks?
Debaser8: What if people submit the 2h file from the formerly current and now future turn?
Debaser8: I feel a little bit like i'm watching back to the future or terminator and dealing with time paradoxes

Sheap: don't submit .2h files from the wrong turn

Debaser8: That advice is a little late now

Zeldor: game will be utterly broken
Zeldor: you need to roll back again or finish it

Debaser8: thanks
Debaser8: so we roll back to the same turn?
Debaser8: and then people who submitted future turns submit over them?

Zeldor: well, future turns cannot be submitted
Zeldor: or they break the game
Zeldor: it's jsut cheating

Debaser8: but would the server remember the future turns that have been submitted last time it was rolled over?
Debaser8: and therefore they would have to be submitted over?

Zeldor: when you roll back, all .2h files are in
Zeldor: even though it shows no one submitted

Debaser8: so we roll back to a previous turn?

Zeldor: well, yeah
Zeldor: as far as you need to get before those future turns submitted

Debaser8: from before turn we originally rolled back to?
Debaser8: ok and then people have to find the right turns and submit them?
Debaser8: hmm...sounds like a lot of possibilities for fail

Zeldor: to where you rolled back
Debaser8: ?
Zeldor: well, to where people submitted wrong turns
Zeldor: so if it's new turn now
Zeldor: you need to roll back just 1
Zeldor: not 2
Zeldor: and those that submitted future turns, need to redo them
Zeldor: deleting .2h files

Debaser8: ok
<Debaser8: so hopefully they have the originals?

Zeldor: of course using proper .trn file
Zeldor: well, if you want to be sure, you can order everyone to redo the turn
Zeldor: they got proper .trn file with rollback email
Zeldor: if someone still submits wrong turn - turn him AI

Re: EA: Master Blaster [NOOB GAME]
 

Just set me AI if I was cheating then, not worth the drama.

Re: EA: Master Blaster [NOOB GAME]
 

I don't think you were cheating. It was obviously an honest mistake. I think that was just a throw away line from IRC about how submitting the wrong turns is bad.

Re: EA: Master Blaster [NOOB GAME]
 

Sorry, too curt of a response. I really meant if I did something that kind of 'broke' what other people had done, then I will forfeit, and go AI, or better yet just get a replacement for me who would be new and not know any of the decisions, ect..

I honestly just did a new turn, not even really remembering what my neighbors had done.

But to be fair, I will bow out and get a sub if that is a good solution. :)

Re: EA: Master Blaster [NOOB GAME]
 

I didn't have any problems with my new turn. So, I'm curious to hear what is messed up myself.

Re: EA: Master Blaster [NOOB GAME]
 

It looks like I was a bit too optimistic about my schedule. I didn't have time to play the current turn, so it might be a good idea to extend the turn until a sub is found. If there's no sub soon, you could also set Ulm to AI. That'll certainly let Kailasa off too easily, though - I still have some tricks up my sleeve, but the AI is certain to mess them up :)

Re: EA: Master Blaster [NOOB GAME]
 

wow, a lot happened while I was gone, was hoping nothing would happen but I guess that's out the window... :S
so, we got a rollback, than another stale from me? Astyreal...? you had more than enough time to fix the situation, why haven't you done anything about it, again...?

Re: EA: Master Blaster [NOOB GAME]
 

not sure what to do at this point, it would be great if someone could step in to fix things.

Re: EA: Master Blaster [NOOB GAME]
 

Hello guys.

I'm going to sub Erebus on EA Ulm while he is out of home. I've received the .trn file from Erebus but no confirmation from the game admin and/or the llamaserver about the email address switch, so let me know as soon as all is tuned on.

About rollbacks : I played several games where rollbacks occured and, as game admin, I rolled back several games without any problem as long as all players send a new .2h file after the rollback. If you try to merge new and old .2h files, then you're for sure running into heavy trouble.

See you soon on the battlefield,
H. - temporary Chancelor of Ulm.

Re: EA: Master Blaster [NOOB GAME]
 

Look like we should:

1. All delete our 2h files
2. Do a roll back and send out an e-mail notification including instructions to delete 2h files for those that haven't
3. All redo our turn using the new turn file from the new roll back
4. Continue with the game

Re: EA: Master Blaster [NOOB GAME]
 

I added 48hrs to the clock

Re: EA: Master Blaster [NOOB GAME]
 

I do not understand anything of the problem nor the answer, but I am ok for everything you want.

Re: EA: Master Blaster [NOOB GAME]
 

Debaser8 I hereby deputize you to carry out all the steps you have outlined.

Work has gotten really hectic for me and I am unlikely to be able to spend as much time on this game as previously.

Re: EA: Master Blaster [NOOB GAME]
 

Ok. Waiting for Ulm to get it's email changed to Herod, if it hasn't already. Then I will start the roll back.

Re: EA: Master Blaster [NOOB GAME]
 

The game has been rolled back. Delete your 2h files. And download and do the new turns. Hopefully it will go smoothly this time.

Re: EA: Master Blaster [NOOB GAME]
 

Mictlan and Ulm please do your turns. But remember to delete your old 2h files and download the roll back turn first.

Re: EA: Master Blaster [NOOB GAME]
 

Postponed hosting for 24hr. Wasn't up to doing turn.

Re: EA: Master Blaster [NOOB GAME]
 

Abysia is out. I think the roll back didn't help him. I am going to post for a sub. Let me know if you have an opinion on the best course of action.

Re: EA: Master Blaster [NOOB GAME]
 

I am going out for a small week, and cannot play in this time (be back on Sunday the 15th). Well, with the remnants of Yomi it does not hurt that much, I do not need any postponing.
For Abysia, his situation seems very powerful, a subbing would be better...

Re: EA: Master Blaster [NOOB GAME]
 

Hi guys, I can sub, I'll send a PM to Debaser.

Re: EA: Master Blaster [NOOB GAME]
 

Added 36hrs for the new player.

Re: EA: Master Blaster [NOOB GAME]
 

Ok guys, I've started looking at the turn, let me know if you had any special diplomatic relationship with Abyssia (NAP's, wars etc.), and also if you'd like any special diplomatic relationships with Abyssia (NAP's, war etc. !).

Also basic info that Abyssia would have known about the world would be nice, this is a no graphs game I see.

Enjoy the game :)

Re: EA: Master Blaster [NOOB GAME]
 

I think you conquered much of Yomi. Not sure about your relationship with Tien Chi. Everybody is pretty much reliant on scouts/diplomacy for info. If you have scouts out you will see that there are a few wars going on.

Re: EA: Master Blaster [NOOB GAME]
 

You are at war with Yomi since the beginning of the game (I was not playing this game at this moment). The Abysia previous player has won a decisive victory at something like turn 20, make a long pause, and just conquered all my provinces the last 10 turns. Abysia was just about to attack my capital before staling. This is my last province.

I will not be able to play next week, be back on sunday the 15th.

Re: EA: Master Blaster [NOOB GAME]
 

Ok, thanks for the info guys, and apologies for holding the game up. If my mate is ready to head out for beers I'm gonna have to put this turn in tomorrow, there is a lot of stuff to deal with here! In any case I'll try to get the turn in soon as.

Re: EA: Master Blaster [NOOB GAME]
 

As for T'ien Ch'i, in one of the turns that got rolled back, you had just launched an invasion of the territories I've taken from Pangaea.

It wasn't unexpected, and before I realized you'd taken over, I'd already set up my counterstrike. (Leaving me mildly confused as to why the attack hadn't happened until I checked the thread.) Let me know if you want to negotiate, but otherwise I think we're effectively at war.

Re: EA: Master Blaster [NOOB GAME]
 

Thanks for playing to the end Erebus/Herode. My monkeys salute the valor of your people and your pretender.

Re: EA: Master Blaster [NOOB GAME]
 

My pleasure, Ape King. You did deserve your victory.
Good luck and have fun for this endgame, guys !

Re: EA: Master Blaster [NOOB GAME]
 

Mictlan is willing to buy earth gems. I'm sure we'll be able to find other things you'll need for this trade to benefit both parties.

Re: EA: Master Blaster [NOOB GAME]
 

Hi guys,

Apologies for being the last one to submit so often, and also often close to the deadline. I've recently been busier than I expected and my other MP game, which I've been in from the start, has taken up the majority of the time I can allocate to Dom 3.

As a sub, and furthermore a sub in a losing but still fightable situation, I feel that this is more your game than mine and I feel kind of bad for slowing it down.

It's probably going to keep happening, though I'll do my best to speed up...on the plus side Tien Chi and Yomi are after my blood, so it shouldn't be a problem for too much longer (I hope!).

I'm off this weekend and don't have time to give my armies the scripting they need now (even as a sub I can't submit a half-assed turn, I just...have to....work everything out!), so no rush boys!

Re: EA: Master Blaster [NOOB GAME]
 

So it looks like I'm gonna be last again, I'll keep doing my best but I'm going to post for a sub on the forums, hopefully find someone with more time than me...if you know anyone who wants to try out a few cool spells and likes going out with a bang, direct them my way.

Apologies once more for being the slowpoke.

Re: EA: Master Blaster [NOOB GAME]
 

Sad to see you go. Your stout resistance to TC was really aiding me from a strategic point of view.

How is everybody else feeling about this game? TC and I (Kailasa) seem to be the strongest nations, and may end up in a long and potentially grueling war.

I'm ready to call it game (opportune timing on my part with Abysia subbing out/going AI :) ), but if people are having fun I have some summons to test among other things and will play on. I am sure Mictlan will manage to conjure up plenty of chaff and immortals for me to test on...

Re: EA: Master Blaster [NOOB GAME]
 

He he, except I didn't get around to posting for a sub! I'll try to get this turn in before the deadline, I'd like to keep playing it out to be honest but I've gone from a summer of sloth to sometimes 11 hour work days in a short space of time, and it's taking its toll!

But yeah, I'm totally ready to finish if everyone's keen!

Re: EA: Master Blaster [NOOB GAME]
 

Sorry about the stale. Sending this turn in right nao!

Re: EA: Master Blaster [NOOB GAME]
 

Tien Chi/Peguin Zero I herby end our NAP. Three turns from this current turn I will attack (is that our agreement? it always confuses me.). It's been fun, but I have a world to claim.

I offer all the remaining powers one nice plump banana to accept the ascendance of Ashvani. Otherwise your armies will be annihilated or bent to the will of Master Monkey. We might want to consider ending the game now.. I am currently in possession of some rather unbalanced magic discount sites.

Re: EA: Master Blaster [NOOB GAME]
 

Yeah c'mon people, Debaser8's got this one. Let's save our time and energy for games where the result is not in doubt!

Re: EA: Master Blaster [NOOB GAME]
 

Er, brain fail, that should have read where the result was still in doubt!

Re: EA: Master Blaster [NOOB GAME]
 

I'm not quite convinced Kailasa's got this won yet -- though admittedly he seems quite powerful. Still, I've got enough strength of my own that I think I've at least got a chance...

We'll see how things go. If Kailasa turns out to be as overpowering as has been suggested, I'll concede when I'm satisfied it's so.

Whatever the case, it's been a fun game -- and I'm quite pleased to have made it this far. (This is only my second game, and in my first I was wiped out by Ashdod in very short order.) Though I need to work on my late-game micromanagement...

Re: EA: Master Blaster [NOOB GAME]
 

Fair enough Penguin, he should at least have to show you I guess!

Can I request a 4 hour extension Debaser? Thanks in advance!

Re: EA: Master Blaster [NOOB GAME]
 

I do not want to vote for a winner, being somehow like out of the game practically. I will continue until someone is elected...

Re: EA: Master Blaster [NOOB GAME]
 

Game crashed. Should we roll it back and redo turns or just go forward with all staling? I am kind of for a roll back, because I think it is fairer, but it adds further complications.

Re: EA: Master Blaster [NOOB GAME]
 

I do not care, but with a rollback come problems (For what I have seen)...

Re: EA: Master Blaster [NOOB GAME]
 

I vote rollback, but I since Debaser8 and Penguin Zero are the two remaining players in the game with a stake in the result, I think they should be the ones who decide...the rest of us are just small fry!

Re: EA: Master Blaster [NOOB GAME]
 

Err, actually I just remembered BlackGuard is still in the game too....feel free to ignore my earlier advice, I'm just a sub after all :)

Also, I'm fairly sure that our game contributed to the llamaserver crash, the llamaserver page stopped updating immediately after I submitted my turn file...I got the confirmation email that my turn file had been received, then nothing for several hours until I opened my inbox today.

Re: EA: Master Blaster [NOOB GAME]
 

I'm pretty much dead as well. whatever Kailasa and TC decide is fine with me, as they're the 2 remaining powers in the game.

Re: EA: Master Blaster [NOOB GAME]
 

Er, Blackguard, I see you submitted a turn...have we worked out what we're going to do yet? I dunno, but I thought we're supposed to wait for a rollback decision one way or the other before submitting turns dude.

I'll go read the Llamaserver page and see.

EDIT: Funny, I checked out Llamaserver FAQ and did a forum search, can't find any instructions on doing a rollback, though I'm sure I've read some somewhere before. I think basically we should all delete our .2h files, rollback, and then resubmit new turns. Trying to send the old .2h file again definitely screws everything up.

In fact the main interesting thread I found had lots of people saying don't do it unless the game is bugged...like i said, I don't care that much though I'd try a rollback since there aren't so many players left, shouldn't be a problem.