Re: Star Trek or Star Wars?
 

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Nice website! There are some powerful arguements there. I do for the most part agree with the website. I think that some of the tech that the ST universe has that the SW universe does not make the Empire or Rebellion look weak. Now the Borg vs. the Empire AND Species 8472 vs. the Empire. What do you think? If the Borg assimilate those of the Empire could they adapt? Do 8472 have the strength to take on Vader and his men? I smell arguements coming http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif .

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I probably don't care much for Star Wars because of the franchise's blantant disregard for safety. Can they not just put some safety rails on those incredible high and narrow platforms? One gust of wind at those heights can really do you over.

[ May 03, 2004, 23:52: Message edited by: Captain Kwok ]

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Perhaps because the Emperor thrives on fear, horror, and so on, and employs enormous numbers of troops because it's just as jolly for him when they die?

PvK

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...and don't even get me started with those super speedy Star Wars doors...

Re: Star Trek or Star Wars?
 

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Nice website! There are some powerful arguements there. I do for the most part agree with the website. I think that some of the tech that the ST universe has that the SW universe does not make the Empire or Rebellion look weak. Now the Borg vs. the Empire AND Species 8472 vs. the Empire. What do you think? If the Borg assimilate those of the Empire could they adapt? Do 8472 have the strength to take on Vader and his men? I smell arguements coming http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif . </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">The site compares TNG and later stuff, which is obviously girly-man equipment. The TNG Enterprise was full of civilians and children engaging in soap opera Love Boat nonsense. They also like to slow to sub-light speeds to fight, so the audience can drool at close-ups of ships.

Now, Captain Kirk's Enterprise routinely fought at full warp speed, which is something neither Star Wars nor TNG is likely to be able to deal with. Star Wars turboLASERS implies lightspeed attacks, which wouldn't be very good at targeting ships able to maneuver, scan, and fight at many times the speed of light. Kirk's Enterprise was repeatedly described as being able to render planets uninhabitable without even breaking out the photon torpedoes.

Nonetheless, if we believe that the Galactic Empire has millions of planets and ships which can cross half a galaxy in a day's time, then even Kirk's Federation might be toast, due to sheer numbers and maneuverability. Their only hope might be technobabble, Vulcan logic, and Kirk's universe-class fistfighting skill (which often makes all the difference between success and failure in his encounters) and invulnerability beyond costume damage and small cuts and bruises. Of course, the Empire's lack of female personnel may be a problem for Kirk. Nah, he's got a whole ship full of miniskirt-clad subordinates. (Kind of like the Emperor keeping his chasms guard-rail free - to each their own.)

PvK

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I went with the one with the Space Lesbians; STAR TREK! Dabo girls, STAR TREK!
What does Star Wars have? Jizz Wailers? what the heck is that? The great pit of Sarnacc? Oooh fun!
The Jedi Knights? Star Trek has the Q Continuum, and varioius embodied and disembodied pissed off god like ancient entities.
As for ships, The Star Wars ships look like Sanford & Son forgot to scrap them. Star Trek ships are licked clean by green Orion Slave Girls.

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">WOW! Those are some odd mental pictures http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...s/confused.gif .

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To be fair any starship can render a world uninhabitable. For referece the rock that took out the dinosaurs generated about 5 x 10^23 Joules (100 million megatons) of energy when it hit; detonating all the nuclear warheads on Earth would give you less than a million.

For example a ship just 300 feet long, moving at ten percent of the speed of light generates an order of magnitude more energy than that impact. If you get up to the speed of light and -then- hit you're talking about 450 million megatons of force.

Assuming your engines can't get you to speeds that high in normal space, things aren't much better. A Super Star Destroyer is quoted at having a length somewhere around 8000m. Ramming a planet at normal orbital speeds with something that big generates around a million megatons. Your only defense against a really desperate opponent is to have enough planetary defenses to totally destroy the ship before it hits.

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Somehow the Star Trek ships look more 'high-tech', more sleek and elegant. The Star Wars ships are really powerful, but they have a heavier, bulky, conventional-technology look to them, as if they just took present-day rocket engines, armor and equipment and scaled them up thousands of times to make a star ship.

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Linky?

Dahak could blow up starfleet, the klingon and romulon fleets, the borg, speciecs whatever, the entire empire and rebel fleet, including both death stars and polish of all the bab5 races, including the ancients - all at the same time.

But Star Trek is my favorite.