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While there are problems with EA Agartha as it currently is, I don't think it's bad enough that is needs banning. Forge of the ancients should be taken as a declaration of war on the entire world, though I suppose there is a possibility of people not organising against it in an anonymous game.

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Admiral, to elaborate on Agarthas OP-ness, I played against EA Agartha in single player to test a build and I attacked their capitol with 10 E9N4 blessed rephalite warriors. The warriors lost. To 25 points of capitol PD. Thats 1500g worth of soldiers + the opportunity cost of the bless in design points that lost to 313g worth of PD that Agartha can slap down anywhere. Or just 200g for PD 20. If Agartha had actually bothered to patrol with some troops things would have been even worse.

As for Ulm, you of all people should know how dangerous Ulm can be even without the forge. I remember the game you and I were in ended in Ulms victory as early as turn 53!

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Well I think that there were some rumours about forge of Ulm being about to be removed. I'd be ok with Ulm if we make a rule that forge of Ulm is not to be used or something like that, that should make it a bit more balanced.(on top of other things that are not balanced about Ulm atm) But I'd rather have them banned.
The problem with Agartha is that it's like a Nut-shell. At early game there are not many nations that can go through their pd alone not to mention if its supported by an army. So while you can fight them at your own land if they conquer something of yours you canno't in any way take it back cost effectively.(which should hamper a lot Sacred rush nations or if your starting position requires you to go for an early war with EA agartha (say you cannot expand unless you fight a war with them) Also there are some rumours that the Darkness is going to be removed in the next CBM so that is enough reason for me to think that its unbalanced and I wouldn't mind having them banned as well)

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i wasn't expecting this kind of debate with those 2 nations.
I don't know them well, so i can't really pick a decision.

Therefore i ll start a poll with this 2 nations & ermor/ryleh LA and people involved in this game will choose to ban or not.

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The things I don't like even in normal games is that when someone casts an "I win spell" everyone waits not to be the first one to attack. So whoever attacks first gets hit the worst from the "I win the game" owner and the rest of the vultures then feed on both of them.:D
Or if no one moves in on time then the "I win guy" just wins.

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So, a lot of discussion here. May be strenght of independens - 9?

I look at poll, and it seems to me like someone want play LA Ermor and does not want competition. :)

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I'm aware that Ulm and Agartha are quite powerful at the moment but I see no reason to ban them. If enough people think they should be banned then do so.

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I'll abstain on voting. I'm not too familiar with MA Ulm and EA Agartha so I can't judge their overpoweredness (or lack of it). LA Ermor and R'Leh are a huge annoyance to fight against, but they are beatable... So "abstain on voting" is my call :)

On the other hand, independents 9 feels a bit much from what I've seen so far: The problem is that if one player is unlucky with the provinces surrounding their capital (all big nasty stacks), they might end up falling a turn or two behind the others during early expansion.

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I agree with Zywack best leave the independents on standard. Since that is the default settings. Stronger independants make the Production scale worth more than its default worth.

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Sounds interesting, I'd like in if there is one spot left.

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Ban nothing, I say. Maybe ban exploits like recruitable 0 gold Ettins, but otherwise my preferences are fairly permissive.

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Great We have 15 should we start the game earlier?

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There is already few rules in the OP, such as the issue with ettins.

I prefer to wait on Saturday for a fair nation picking.
There is still room if some people want to join.

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Fair enough.

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Sorry didnt know this game was still recruiting.

If it's ok count me in too please.

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I suggest count him in and close the recruiting. 220 provinces/ 16 players = 13 provinces each and thats quite crowded and some people will get map screwed with their positions if we get more people.

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Well...I'm looking forward to the game being up later on this evening. I'm going to make sure I'll be home in time in order to submit my desired choice.

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Alright shard you are in.
The server open his doors in 4 hours !

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Just a quick question what happens if there is only 1 water nation? or if there are none?

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If there is only 1 water i suggest everyone dogpiled him.
If there is no water nation i suggest we dogpiled all land nations that can easily go underwater :)

The thing is the way I see it with the whole anonimus thingy. I think having a water nation already picked would highly discourage everyone else to pick another one. Why should they fight for some 22 provinces in the water when you can have more space on the land. Can I make a suggestion: although it going to be enforsing it to someone, but since its first pick first served should we say : if there happens to be a water nation then the last guy to pick should get another water one maybe(if no one elese has picked one) That is of course if there is only 1, 0 should be ok.(I'm looking at if from a balance point of view) There is really not much you can do early on against say LA R'lyeh and later on the advantage (as extra provinces and no wars)they get is going to win them the game. And in a anonimus game without charts its gonna be hard as hell to organise anything.


At least like that if a water nation is to control all the 22 sea provinces they would have fought for it and deserve the advantage.

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Well you have compute earlier the lands for each player which is around 13.

If there is only 1 water nation, a second guy can pick an other water nation and expect 11 water prov + 2 lands prov. (and he has the same average amount of lands than any other nation)

The true problem is only 1 water nation, which unlikely to happen.
And if it happens i ll sacrifice myself and take the 2nd water nation. So don't worry :)

I also want to remind everybody that you can delete your actual pretender, before the game starts, by sending me a PM. (so some1 with land nation can switch to a water for example, or the 1rt pick of water nation want to change because two others peeps picked after him water nation and he thinks water is too crowded)

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Ok fair enough:)

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game is UP!!!

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I wish all of you good luck. Also thats why people didnt want to ban the nation. We just need one more picking MA Ulm and its gonna be the fight of the broken ones.

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Yeah, All we need is Ulm. Ta da ta da ta.

I bet that any one of four banraces will not win

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So far..very interesting.

Middle age is getting no love.

I was kind of hoping to see a face-off between nations of different eras, like EA R'lyeh or EA Ermor. Could still happen.

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Good luck and have fun gentlemen.

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Man, that doesn't look a terribly fun lineup... Let's try to have fun anyway! :)

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Only 4 more slots and only one water nation.

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why that ?

There is a lot of diversity and only one of the 2 "uber nations".

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I can count 5 of the :) "uber nations"/"better nations". not going to mention which ones (not to reveal my confidentiality), but they are easy to spot:)

But then again fear is in the eyes of the beholder.
And it should be fun:)

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Draw the list plz :)

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You could have missed your "5 ubber nations", so you could have drawn the list.

Ofc now it's too late.

Anyway, only one pretender remaining and it's a go !

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Ahh we have only one water nation... !!

Well good for him BUT i'm expecting it will be taken in consideration by everybody if we continue as it is. I was confused and forgot LA Atlantis wasn't a water nation. (at least not his cap).

i see few other nation that can take water provinces so i think we can go like that. If few people think it's a bad idea to go like this we will reroll the game with another water nation.

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I personally find LA atlantis to be okish the problem I see is if they get into war with a land nation they'd just screw the seas. On the other hand we have Fomoria(although not a good example), Patala (another not really good example), and EA agartha to go for the seas. Also LA Ermor should be ok with getting into water. But I don't see that as putting much pressure on R'lyeh early on so it all depends on Atlantis player and if he goes for the seas or not.

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LA Rl'yeh was one of the first nations picked, so no one picked another water nation because they all have functioning brains. No other water nation is really good at fighting Rl'yeh, so basically penciling yourself in for an early war with them is kind of stupid.

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Well, LA Atlantis is almost custom built to deal with LA R'lyeth so I dont mind. And we dont really know who is playing the uber nations so it might be some of the noobier people. In witch case its fine.

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Go, go, go. I want some sushi a la Lovecraft.

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Ok you got me I am in control of LA R'lyeh and with so much hate around me I admit defeat outright, you can set me to AI I dont mind:D As my last will I leave all my territories to: (spoilers)

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That better be a joke post.

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o.O what do you think it is? (Playing mind games thats exactly their style:P)

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I mostly picked my nation by thinking: "Oh my god I'm not sure I want to be in this game anymore!" We'll see what it'll bring :)

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O great. I sent the wrong pretender :/

Whatever, let's see what happen

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Did you send the lord of plenty? What were you going to send?

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To be more accurate on the victory conditions now we have the complete list of players, i think 8cap + your own cap is a good objective.

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Oh, quick question! If you are dead, are you allowed at that point to state who you were playing and issue a good bye, or is that also not allowed in an anonymous game?

Note: The nation that I'm playing is neither dead or dying at this current point in time. :)

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Damn it so you didnt start with 1 dominion power imprisoned pretender and you didnt get unlucky event that drops your dominion turn 1:S

I'm not sure about the first one coz the fewer players remain the clearer it will be who is who.

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But I guess If we were to keep the trade agreements and making plans for ingame. It should be allright(I personally would be ok with it:) )

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Well, I have a friend who had a Vampire Lord attack on the 2nd turn on his capital so it can happen in various ways :)