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Erebus May 3rd, 2010 02:39 PM

Re: EA: Master Blaster [NOOB GAME] (RUNNING)
 
Well, the initial post says "Diplomacy: Binding, NAP only with pre-arranged turn duration".

13lackGu4rd May 3rd, 2010 02:44 PM

Re: EA: Master Blaster [NOOB GAME] (RUNNING)
 
which doesn't make anything I said any less true... pre-arranged duration can apply to both methods, as long as it's a defined term and not just a NAP(without any additions, so indefinite until canceled) and well, being binding...

Erebus May 4th, 2010 07:34 AM

Re: EA: Master Blaster [NOOB GAME] (RUNNING)
 
Yes, I agree it can definitely be seen that way. But I think it's a good idea to clarify the rules and to make sure everyone reads them the same way. Myself, I'd like to think a NAP3 as discussed earlier is within the intention of the rule statement. :)

Astyreal May 18th, 2010 06:24 AM

Re: EA: Master Blaster [NOOB GAME] (RUNNING)
 
Yomi, I noticed that you staled the last turn and have not yet submitted this one. Are you still playing? If you would like to find a sub that's fine, but just let us know.

Debaser8 May 19th, 2010 12:52 PM

Re: EA: Master Blaster [NOOB GAME] (RUNNING)
 
Are we going to pause the game until this Yomi situation is sorted out?

Astyreal May 19th, 2010 01:36 PM

Re: EA: Master Blaster [NOOB GAME] (RUNNING)
 
Guys I think we should postpone until we get the yomi situation sorted.

Problem is I forgot my password and don't know how to get a reminder sent. Help!!

Don't send me a pm, reply to the thread thx.

Astyreal May 19th, 2010 08:09 PM

Re: EA: Master Blaster [NOOB GAME] (LOOKING FOR SUB)
 
ALL
I remembered the password but not before it was too late.

The the potential player who may be reading this, we have a spot for Yomi, pretty early on in this game. Yomi is an opponent of mine, and as far as I can tell he's doing fine, I haven't taken any territory for him. He staled twice, but seems to be in a good positions.

pm me if you have any interest. thanks and look fwd to you signing up!

13lackGu4rd May 19th, 2010 08:37 PM

Re: EA: Master Blaster [NOOB GAME] (LOOKING FOR SUB)
 
I think you should pause the game until we find a sub for Yomi. that means keep expanding the timer by 24 hours each time it's about to run out. than when we finally do find a sub give him some time to get acquainted with his new position than we'll get rolling again at standard times.

Rytek May 19th, 2010 08:56 PM

Re: EA: Master Blaster [NOOB GAME] (LOOKING FOR SUB)
 
This looks like a slower game. I could sub Yomi until you found someone else more permanent. Im in 3 games now and 4 is over my limit. So, I wouldnt want to play it permanently.

Umm, im not a new player. I wouldnt need too much time to get aquainted with the position.

13lackGu4rd May 19th, 2010 09:33 PM

Re: EA: Master Blaster [NOOB GAME] (LOOKING FOR SUB)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rytek (Post 746074)
This looks like a slower game. I could sub Yomi until you found someone else more permanent. Im in 3 games now and 4 is over my limit. So, I wouldnt want to play it permanently.

Umm, im not a new player. I wouldnt need too much time to get aquainted with the position.

bold part is a bit problematic, this being a newbie game and all that... so, do you consider yourself an experienced player or somewhere in between, say intermediate of sort? if it's the later than I guess it could work, if the former than it would be a bit unfair to your neighbors and eventually to the rest of us.

Astyreal May 19th, 2010 09:40 PM

Re: EA: Master Blaster [NOOB GAME] (LOOKING FOR SUB)
 
Rytek
Thanks for volunteering but given that you're not a newb and you don't want to sub permanently, I'll try a couple more days to find someone on a permanent basis. But I definitely may be hitting you up if it drags on, thanks much for raising your hand!

Rytek May 19th, 2010 10:51 PM

Re: EA: Master Blaster [NOOB GAME] (LOOKING FOR SUB)
 
ok, let me know. I would say I am at least at intermediate experience.

Num May 20th, 2010 04:55 AM

Re: EA: Master Blaster [NOOB GAME] (LOOKING FOR SUB)
 
Hi,
I am looking for a game since my first one (Rattlehead) is finished. It would be the third one (I am playing in Let's Try Again, where Astyreal and Blackguard have played too). So third mp game, a few sp games (Until turn 50 max), I am still a poor player, but noot a complete noob, I do not know anything about Yomi, but I DO like the EA music.
Let me know if you are interested.

Astyreal May 21st, 2010 03:29 PM

Re: EA: Master Blaster [NOOB GAME] (LOOKING FOR SUB)
 
All I have to say is: Welcome Aboard!

pm me your email address!

Num May 22nd, 2010 02:13 PM

Re: EA: Master Blaster [NOOB GAME] (LOOKING FOR SUB)
 
I have just received the file, thanks.

I will not make any miracle though :rolleyes:.

The map is beautiful, never seen another one that great.

Astyreal May 22nd, 2010 05:26 PM

Re: EA: Master Blaster [NOOB GAME] (LOOKING FOR SUB)
 
Ok everyone, get your turns in.

We have a new Yomi player and he is up and running!

legolasjrt May 22nd, 2010 06:53 PM

Re: EA: Master Blaster [NOOB GAME] (LOOKING FOR SUB)
 
i Have a Nap3 whit yomi. Still live this pact?

Num May 23rd, 2010 04:19 AM

Re: EA: Master Blaster [NOOB GAME] (LOOKING FOR SUB)
 
Yes ! I came in peace. Long live our friendship.
I mean it.

Num May 26th, 2010 01:59 PM

Re: EA: Master Blaster [NOOB GAME] (LOOKING FOR SUB)
 
Astyreal, please look at your private messages.

13lackGu4rd May 27th, 2010 07:53 AM

Re: EA: Master Blaster [NOOB GAME] (LOOKING FOR SUB)
 
you should remove the "looking for sub" part as we've found one... other than that, how are y'all doing? this thread is very quiet, no drama or anything like that ;)

Num May 27th, 2010 10:15 AM

Re: EA: Master Blaster [NOOB GAME] (LOOKING FOR SUB)
 
Here is a tragedy : I have no gem, no magic site searched, my pretender is dead, I have only one castle, almost no research already made, only a few mages, no scout... Well that is a challenge.

Astyreal May 29th, 2010 07:44 PM

Re: EA: Master Blaster [NOOB GAME] (LOOKING FOR SUB)
 
I postponed the game for 72 hrs as I am on vacation, and while I have some internet access, it will be difficult to get my turn in. Hopefully get it in in the next 24hr. Sorry for the delay.

13lackGu4rd May 30th, 2010 01:31 AM

Re: EA: Master Blaster [NOOB GAME] (LOOKING FOR SUB)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Num (Post 746846)
Here is a tragedy : I have no gem, no magic site searched, my pretender is dead, I have only one castle, almost no research already made, only a few mages, no scout... Well that is a challenge.

yeah well, there was a reason why the previous Yomi player bailed out after all... however, Yomi is generally considered to be a weak nation, mainly due to a pretty poor start, but if you survive it you have a solid mid and late game. so I guess it should be expected that Yomi in a newbie game has done poorly, but on the bright side, you can only make it better, and if you lose than it's hardly your fault.

Debaser8 May 30th, 2010 04:12 PM

Re: EA: Master Blaster [NOOB GAME] (LOOKING FOR SUB)
 
I am playing Yomi in another game. I think they suffer from a lack of magic diversity, a lack of sacreds, and a lack of high level priests. My advice is to go lanterns/mentors for research and hope for magic diversity through indies. The situation you inherited might not be redeemable though.

13lackGu4rd May 30th, 2010 04:53 PM

Re: EA: Master Blaster [NOOB GAME] (LOOKING FOR SUB)
 
yes they lack sacreds, but they got recruitable sacred SCs called Dai Onis, now these guys are pure awesomeness! by far the best thing about Yomi... well, they got pretty good summons as well, shared with Shinuyama and Jomon, but he said he doesn't have that many gems...

Num May 31st, 2010 10:22 AM

Re: EA: Master Blaster [NOOB GAME] (LOOKING FOR SUB)
 
That is not a question of weak or strong nation (I do not think it matters for beginners anyway). And Yomi do not seems weak to me.
But the early game was surely awful (War in the very beginning of a game looks very hard to handle, diplomacy makes everything). The situation is probably desperate, but I knew I was going to inherit a bad position, no problem :cool:. I only want to survive a little to learn about this nation and this situation. That is why I am looking for peace !!
Dai Onis looks indeed very powerful, and magic variety is maybe balanced by the pretender, I do not know, I did not seen him, nor the prophet...
In my first game, Shinuyama has won, There are probably not much differences with Yomi.

13lackGu4rd May 31st, 2010 12:50 PM

Re: EA: Master Blaster [NOOB GAME] (LOOKING FOR SUB)
 
actually there are quite a few, but yes they do share the same unique summons... oh and before saying your pretender is dead, are you sure it's actually dead and not say imprisoned? imprisoned pretenders break out anywhere within years3-4, we've just started year3 so he could just be imprisoned. unless of course you have the ability to "call god" with your priests, which suggest he's in fact dead not imprisoned.

and well, if you want peace than I suggest you PM your aggressive neighbors, it would do you a lot more good than saying it out loud over the forums. talk to them, engage in diplomacy and hopefully you can get some peace to learn the nation.

Astyreal June 7th, 2010 09:07 PM

Re: EA: Master Blaster [NOOB GAME] (LOOKING FOR SUB)
 
Nah, he's dead. I killed him!

Astyreal June 7th, 2010 09:07 PM

Re: EA: Master Blaster [NOOB GAME] (LOOKING FOR SUB)
 
I postponed the game 24hrs as it looked like a couple players were going to stale.

Get your turns in guys!

13lackGu4rd June 8th, 2010 11:13 AM

Re: EA: Master Blaster [NOOB GAME] (LOOKING FOR SUB)
 
Mictlan is willing to buy dwarven hammers and earth gems. in return we can send water, fire, nature and astral gems. prices would depend on the amount of hammers/earth gems as well as which type of gem you'd want in return.

PM me on the forums with offers, the sooner the better.

13lackGu4rd July 12th, 2010 05:50 PM

Re: EA: Master Blaster [NOOB GAME] (LOOKING FOR SUB)
 
going out of town tomorrow, until the weekend than again next week. got my current turn in but I'd need an extension for next turn until Thursday or Friday night than I'll try to do as many turns as I can during the weekend and leave again on Sunday, until next Thursday or Friday.

sorry for these delays :( oh and before you guys ask, no I won't have internet access, nor a lab top for that matter, so I won't be able to do my turns while I'm away.

Debaser8 July 13th, 2010 12:57 AM

Re: EA: Master Blaster [NOOB GAME] (LOOKING FOR SUB)
 
Blackguard, I don't see your Turn. Anyways we should probably pause the game till you get back, unless you don't mind taking a stale.

Game: Master_Blaster
Turn number 39
Next turn due: 14:35 GMT on Wednesday July 14th

Join up mates!

Abysia Waiting for 2h file
Caelum 2h file received
Kailasa Waiting for 2h file
Mictlan Waiting for 2h file
T'ien Ch'i 2h file received
Ulm Waiting for 2h file
Yomi 2h file received

Debaser8 July 16th, 2010 08:31 PM

Re: EA: Master Blaster [NOOB GAME] (LOOKING FOR SUB)
 
I'm worried that Blackguard might stale again. Can you please pause the game until this is sorted out? Also, if you aren't going to check the thread regularly could you please give somebody who does co-admin powers.

Kind of a shame for all of us to put a ton of time into playing a game and then have players stale because the admin doesn't check the forum.

13lackGu4rd July 17th, 2010 05:10 PM

Re: EA: Master Blaster [NOOB GAME] (LOOKING FOR SUB)
 
no idea why I staled on turn 39, I was pretty sure I sent in my turn before I left. oh well... so anyway, got 2 turns in this weekend and tomorrow I'm off again, the current turn is in, I checked llamaserver this time to make sure, so if the game will continue on its 72 hour schedule than I should be fine. next turn due on tuesday, than the 1 after that on friday(should be back home by than, hopefully) but just in case I could use an extension for the next turn until saturday, if the admin is even checking this thread...

oh and if you guys play fast and get the turns rolling faster than I will need an extension until saturday, whenever next turn will begin...

Debaser8 July 17th, 2010 06:03 PM

Re: EA: Master Blaster [NOOB GAME] (LOOKING FOR SUB)
 
Ulm, who I am currently fighting a war against, staled. I wonder if it was a one time thing if or if we should try and find a replacement. I think he is significantly better off then Yomi was...

Maybe Num wants to take over another nation :).

Num July 18th, 2010 03:22 AM

Re: EA: Master Blaster [NOOB GAME] (LOOKING FOR SUB)
 
No thanks. I was a little disappointed with the position of Yomi when I joined. I expected a bad one, but not that bad, and it is less fun without any hope nor plan to do anything. So I will not replace anyone soon ;).

Calahan July 18th, 2010 04:19 AM

Re: EA: Master Blaster [NOOB GAME] (LOOKING FOR SUB)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Debaser8 (Post 752131)
Ulm, who I am currently fighting a war against, staled. I wonder if it was a one time thing if or if we should try and find a replacement. I think he is significantly better off then Yomi was...

Maybe Num wants to take over another nation :).

I have no connection to this game, but want to post to say a big "Thank You" to Debaser8 for reporting that he was fighting a potentially staling opponent :up: A very good sporting gesture indeed, and one that deserves much praise IMO. As it seems to be getting ever rarer in MP games these days :(

Personally I find it very sad how rare it is that players actually report this sort of thing, as too many seem to prefer getting an unfair advantage fighting stalers or AI's :( rather than fight honest hard-fought wars against other players :) Or they try to make claim they didn't know their opponent was staling (yeah right, likely story. How is it possible not to notice that your opponent is doing nothing to defend himself turn after turn as you attack freely)


Anyway, interruption over. Happy gaming, and best of luck to everyone :D

Erebus July 18th, 2010 07:31 AM

Re: EA: Master Blaster [NOOB GAME] (LOOKING FOR SUB)
 
I sent a private message to Astyreal asking for an extension, around 16h before the hosting I think. I'm rather unhappy about the game now, since I expect to have lost two forts and my serious attempt at countering Kailasa's armies (I didn't see the new turn yet) due to not getting the extension I asked for. I think a rollback is called for. I can promise to not look at the new turn before scripting by defenses.

On an unrelated note, I'll be out of town for around two weeks starting next friday so I'm going to need a sub soon.

Num July 18th, 2010 09:20 AM

Re: EA: Master Blaster [NOOB GAME] (LOOKING FOR SUB)
 
I am afraid I disagree with you Calahan. Maybe a lot of experienced players care only about winning, and nothing else. But in the few newbie games I have played, sportmanship is very present, exactly like in this situation. Lot of fair players (Well maybe not in diplomacy :)) and lot of fair conducts.
With the big exception of time management and sudden disappearance of course.

No problem for the rollback.

Debaser8 July 18th, 2010 01:25 PM

Re: EA: Master Blaster [NOOB GAME] (LOOKING FOR SUB)
 
I've requested co-admin powers from llamabeast. Please let me know if you object to a roll back.

Penguin Zero July 19th, 2010 01:38 AM

Re: EA: Master Blaster [NOOB GAME] (LOOKING FOR SUB)
 
No objections to a rollback -- I don't mind one way or the other. I'm definitely in favor of making sure everyone gets a chance to play.

Pelthin July 19th, 2010 07:04 PM

Re: EA: Master Blaster [NOOB GAME] (LOOKING FOR SUB)
 
Same here..Rollback is fine.

Debaser8 July 19th, 2010 07:33 PM

Re: EA: Master Blaster [NOOB GAME] (LOOKING FOR SUB)
 
who are you?

Astyreal July 19th, 2010 09:06 PM

Re: EA: Master Blaster [NOOB GAME] (LOOKING FOR SUB)
 
To be honest after reading through the llamaserver rollback warning I am not all that keen to try it.

Seems like it could be more trouble than benefit.

Debaser8 July 20th, 2010 03:54 AM

Re: EA: Master Blaster [NOOB GAME] (LOOKING FOR SUB)
 
Hmmm, I guess no roll back. I only took one fort. I will send Ulm all the items I took, some money and some gems. Who is Pelthin btw?

Erebus July 20th, 2010 08:27 AM

Re: EA: Master Blaster [NOOB GAME] (LOOKING FOR SUB)
 
All the rollbacks I've been involved in earlier have been smooth. As far as I've understood it, Llamaserver keeps all the old .2h files, so that only I'd have to send in a new one.

Astyreal July 20th, 2010 08:21 PM

Re: EA: Master Blaster [NOOB GAME] (LOOKING FOR SUB)
 
Ok, I gave it a shot -- the game has been rolled back.

VERY IMPORTANT:

Erebus, I believe you are the only one that submits a new file.

Everyone else, do NOT do ANYTHING no matter what the server says about your files being submitted

After Erebus puts his file in I will force hosting.

Thanks.

Debaser8 July 20th, 2010 10:33 PM

Re: EA: Master Blaster [NOOB GAME] (LOOKING FOR SUB)
 
Caelum put in a turn. Not sure the best way to deal with that is.

Penguin Zero July 20th, 2010 11:21 PM

Re: EA: Master Blaster [NOOB GAME] (LOOKING FOR SUB)
 
Gah, likewise for T'ien Ch'i. I saw the new turn file come in, and redid my turn before coming here to check it out. Sorry -- I can dig out my original .2h and resend it if that's better.

Erebus July 21st, 2010 03:14 AM

Re: EA: Master Blaster [NOOB GAME] (LOOKING FOR SUB)
 
Thanks for the rollback. I really appreciate it. I've sent in my turn. Now I just have to hope my defensive plans aren't useless or worse. :)

So now I need to find a sub for around two weeks. I've posted in the stickied "looking for players" thread about it, hopefully someone will answer. I can probably play the next turn, but I'll be gone after that.


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