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Arralen September 3rd, 2006 03:58 AM

Re: Religious Uprising Feature
 
A) Provinces under enemy dominion get unrest already, albeit a rather small amount.
B) Those provinces might already go indy via special event. Chances might be higher if the unrest is furthered by spies and if misfortune is spreading there.

.. at least that's what happened to me in Dom2!! Haven't seen anything that this was changed in Dom3 ...

Tyrian September 3rd, 2006 08:07 AM

Re: Religious Uprising Feature
 
The rebels force can be based on the population and the factor use by BigJMoney. In is first example, the rebellion is so massive that 38% of the population go in open insurrection. The unit are probably very basic unit like militia. If the Insurection is crushed, the population fall by this rate. A side effect can also be the diminish of the dominion.

BigJMoney September 3rd, 2006 03:12 PM

Re: Religious Uprising Feature
 
For some reason, I didn't think of population being a factor...silly me :-)

Anyway, don't forget that having PD is not the only way to combat this. It's the last resort, actually. The more efficient ways to comabt it are:

1) High Dominion
2) Order and happiness

In other words, the only area of the game that is drastically changed are those who play with both low dominion and low population control. They need to have more defensive military presence, "or else".

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Frostmourne27 September 3rd, 2006 06:10 PM

Re: Religious Uprising Feature
 
Maybe it makes order too powerful? the unrest reduction isn't bad as it is (in dom2) and the gold income is insane... maybe we could tie it to a different scale? Drain description says thinking is difficult? Maybe drain makes planning rebelions harder? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

alexti September 4th, 2006 01:08 AM

Re: Religious Uprising Feature
 
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Frostmourne27 said:
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If the rebels army has 1000+ regular units (perhaps one of those that can be recruited?) in it, nothing short of having major army or SC in the province would help, so it wouldn't cause any noticeable extra management.

But then the person who gets the new territory has a huge army, and would either a) go on a rampage and take tons of provinces, which would be kinda cool, but overpowering, or b) have a bunch of crappy troop (like militia event but x20) and have to suicide them, which is a pain. (unless dom3 has a disband command)

My assumption is that rebels will just resume their normal occupation (like farming, etc) after rebellion succeeds. So the province will become empty of military.

alexti September 4th, 2006 01:09 AM

Re: Religious Uprising Feature
 
Quote:

BigJMoney said:
For some reason, I didn't think of population being a factor...silly me :-)

Anyway, don't forget that having PD is not the only way to combat this. It's the last resort, actually. The more efficient ways to comabt it are:

1) High Dominion
2) Order and happiness

In other words, the only area of the game that is drastically changed are those who play with both low dominion and low population control. They need to have more defensive military presence, "or else".

That's a very radical change considering that the most common way to conquer land is by invading it with military force. It's hard to expect order or high dominion as a result of such action http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Frostmourne27 September 4th, 2006 01:47 AM

Re: Religious Uprising Feature
 
That would be ok I guess, though maybe a small % could stay behind, giving a few units to defend the province with. Alternativly, they could joing the PD.

BigJMoney September 4th, 2006 12:53 PM

Re: Religious Uprising Feature
 
Alexti was right, the point isn't to create "free armies", the point is simply to flip the province to new control.

@alexti
True, it would really make people think twice about steamrolling into someone's territory who has a stronger dominion. Don't forget, however, that taking territory means bringing down temples and putting up your own.

Anyway, I'm starting to think this idea has gone beyond modability. How about tying it to the Fortune scale, rather than the order scale, in the form of a new random event? It doesn't work as well in the roleplay sense, but in the game balance sense, it might be more feasible. Simply create a negative random event that only occurs in provinces with enemy dominion. I don't know anything about modding, but I'll assume for now it's not possible to make this army the same allegiance as the enemy dominion, or scale the size of the army to the dominion strength. Anyway, it's a start. Maybe someone can step in here and explain a little bit about modding random events.

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