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NTJedi September 9th, 2004 12:10 PM

Re: Is Ermor still broken for the AI?
 
More then anything else the next patch hopefully will have some improved AI features. It's sad when the AI masses a huge army of low_class units which are starving because there's so many. You can guess the outcome of battles for the AI.
Perhaps the developers can provide a disable/enable starving for AI opponents.
Perhaps the developers can also change the formula being used by the AI on purchasing less low_class units.

Arryn September 9th, 2004 01:30 PM

Re: Is Ermor still broken for the AI?
 
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reverend said:
So basically, Ermor should be marked "Human player only"?

No, it should be marked as MP-only. A human player using Ermor in SP is even more of a problem for the AI than an AI-controlled Ermor.

En Forcer September 9th, 2004 06:52 PM

Re: Is Ermor still broken for the AI?
 
Okay, this makes a lot of sense. I've played about 10 more turns since I posted this and I've been consistantly hitting (and getting hit by) Ermorian armies numbering between 150 - 200 units. The AI has been fairly contstant in replenishing these guys but the funny thing is I now have 12 hero priests in my army!

My scouts show a mass of Ermorian troops (close to 500) sitting 2 provinces away and he keeps breaking off pieces to throw at me. Never moving the whole stack at once. Odd...

magnate September 10th, 2004 06:44 AM

Re: Is Ermor still broken for the AI?
 
Yes, a HoF full of 50gp priests is very funny. Sadly they don't make much use of many of the heroic abilities - but then again they are at least able to make good use of heroic precision, which most melee heroes aren't ....

Arralen September 10th, 2004 07:04 AM

Re: Is Ermor still broken for the AI?
 
Quote:

En Forcer said:
My scouts show a mass of Ermorian troops (close to 500) sitting 2 provinces away and he keeps breaking off pieces to throw at me. Never moving the whole stack at once. Odd...

Mmmh, maybe the next time you could pause at the start of battle and check which ermorian commanders are present. I think the AI might be sending enough commanders that it acutally would be able to send all 500 troops as well. Maybe something is 'broken' with troop grouping / squad assembly but the error does not show up with the limited number of "standard" troops but only with the hughe numbers of free summons - Does the AI assign mulitple squads to one commmander? (seldom I think) - Is there a (unintentionally) fixed max number of troops in a squad?

En Forcer September 10th, 2004 11:59 AM

Re: Is Ermor still broken for the AI?
 
The commander assignments seem okay. The "smaller" armies are anywhere from 3 to 6 mound kings.

The big Groups that come at me are commanded by dusk elder and 2-3 mound kings.

I've put together enough troops now to push them back into their territory. We'll see what happens in the next 6 turns.

von_Schmidt September 10th, 2004 12:38 PM

Re: Is Ermor still broken for the AI?
 
Quote:

Arralen said:
Quote:

En Forcer said:
My scouts show a mass of Ermorian troops (close to 500) sitting 2 provinces away and he keeps breaking off pieces to throw at me. Never moving the whole stack at once. Odd...

Mmmh, maybe the next time you could pause at the start of battle and check which ermorian commanders are present. I think the AI might be sending enough commanders that it acutally would be able to send all 500 troops as well. Maybe something is 'broken' with troop grouping / squad assembly but the error does not show up with the limited number of "standard" troops but only with the hughe numbers of free summons - Does the AI assign mulitple squads to one commmander? (seldom I think) - Is there a (unintentionally) fixed max number of troops in a squad?

Max nr depend on the commander's command (leadership) rating.
Unless that is not what you mean?

Arryn September 10th, 2004 12:56 PM

Re: Is Ermor still broken for the AI?
 
Quote:

von_Schmidt said:
Max nr depend on the commander's command (leadership) rating.
Unless that is not what you mean?

The game's max number of troops per squad, not the max number that can be commanded by a given leader.


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