New patch soon?

[AreaOfEffect]

Note: The cases listed below are bypassed by all site searching spells, not just one or two. This tends to be a trend with this particular bug. They have also always been this way. Both before and after sites were found there. If they were searched by a spell it was manually selected.

Search status key: [F:A:W:E:S:D:N:B:H]

In the MP game Standards:
-Province Dumna (106). It was originally in the possession of Ry'leh. I haven't bothered to search it and so it's search status is [0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0]. Contains Brigand lair and Chitterpalm Oasis.
-Province Tapanete (120). I have owned it the entire game as it borders my cap. Search status is [9:9:9:0:0:0:9:0:3]. Contains Weeping Stones and Grove of Evergreens.
-Province Hamane (194). I have traded this province with Pangaea and Ry'leh regularly. I have owned it the majority and was a constant war zone. Search status is [0:0:0:0:0:0:9:0:2]. Contains Shambler Reef and Ancient Temple.

In the MP game Revenge of Pimpin:
-Province Aenasia (294). It has been out of my possession once and that was from an indy event. Search status is [9:9:0:0:9:0:9:0:2]. Contains Grove of Evergreens and Desert of Bones.

I'm sure I can relocate more of these if I put some time into it. I think there is a least one in the Collider game I'm playing. I'm actually really into that game and I don't want to publicly scout out my own provinces for my enemies.

[JimMorrison]

Not sure what the bug is? I mean, site searching spells have always bypassed any province with 2+ sites, whether they are level 0, worthless, what have you.

I am really hoping that the new behavior targets not only those that have not been searched at level 4+, but also those that contain 2 provinces already (as well as not ever casting on capitals!). Though I very very rarely do manual searches anymore, so I am mostly hoping for the 2 sites change. :P

[MaxWilson]

Originally Posted by AreaOfEffect

-Province Dumna (106). It was originally in the possession of Ry'leh. I haven't bothered to search it and so it's search status is [0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0]. Contains Brigand lair and Chitterpalm Oasis.
-Province Tapanete (120). I have owned it the entire game as it borders my cap. Search status is [9:9:9:0:0:0:9:0:3]. Contains Weeping Stones and Grove of Evergreens.
-Province Hamane (194). I have traded this province with Pangaea and Ry'leh regularly. I have owned it the majority and was a constant war zone. Search status is [0:0:0:0:0:0:9:0:2]. Contains Shambler Reef and Ancient Temple.

Jim is right, these are all covered by the rules cited earlier. They have 2 sites already and are considered non-prime. The way I read JK's note, they will be searched in the next patch as long as there are no "prime" provinces for the path in question (i.e. not searched yet in that path and less than 2 sites known) to take priority.

-Max

[vfb]

Originally Posted by JimMorrison

Not sure what the bug is? I mean, site searching spells have always bypassed any province with 2+ sites, whether they are level 0, worthless, what have you.

I am really hoping that the new behavior targets not only those that have not been searched at level 4+, but also those that contain 2 provinces already ... :P

What a strange coincidence! I wrote "2 or 3 discovered provinces" myself, before I spotted the typo in my post above.

Anyway, I can't resist micromanaging my site searching in MP, and in the beginning of my SP games. It will take something like Endo's new site mod to make me give up and just use the monthly rituals.

[MaxWilson]

Originally Posted by vfb

What a strange coincidence! I wrote "2 or 3 discovered provinces" myself, before I spotted the typo in my post above.

Yeah, I've done it too, three or four times in this thread, although I think I've edited them all away by now.

-Max

[VedalkenBear]

AoE: As others have stated, the issue you refer to does not seem to be outside the bounds of the currently-known algorithm's decision profile.

Something that I do not know (but would like to know) is if the algorithm will site-search a province with a path if an opponent has site-searched that province with that path. E.g., I believe Chitterpalm Oasis is not a 0-level water site; i.e., it must be searched for. Since you have not searched for it, and R'lyeh easily can search for it, it stands to reason that R'lyeh did in fact find it. If this is all true, I would like to know if a casting of Voice of Apsu (on auto-cast) will target this province. Assume for the sake of argument that the Oasis is the only site in the province found thus far. (This is a slight change from AoE's example.)

[vfb]

Currently, if there is only one discovered site in a province, that province will be targeted by all automatic site-searching spells. Even if it's a W-4 site, which means there can't possibly be any more water sites, and you're casting Voice of Aspu.

[AreaOfEffect]

I'm apparently much better at reading your words then you are at reading mine. This is the part of the formula you say answers the question.

Originally Posted by MaxWilson

The number of discovered sites matters because it's relatively improbable to discover a D site in a province which is already known to have e.g. 2 air sites, since the average total number of sites in a province is only about 2 anyway, depending upon what site frequency you are playing with and what the terrain type is.

This is the part where I insist that this is not the case.

Originally Posted by AreaOfEffect

Note: The cases listed below are bypassed by all site searching spells, not just one or two. This tends to be a trend with this particular bug. They have also always been this way. Both before and after sites were found there. If they were searched by a spell it was manually selected.

I am 100% certain that site search was switched off for Tapanete (120) and Aenasia (294) before sites were discovered. I didn't bother to present any other locations because it is tedious and because I wanted to use example locations where sites were found spite the games desire to pass them up.

[Sombre]

I've seen what aoe is talking about as well.

[legowarrior]

So we have to wait all the way till next year before getting a new patch?