Newbie Game EA (Running)

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C'tis has moved onto land that was reserved by the Triton Kings for their own purposes. They shall now feel the might of Oceania brought down upon their heads.

[Ironhawk]

Stryke11 said:
Ok, so when 50+ heavily armed and armored Ermorian legionnaires are utterly crushed by under ten opponents without even inflicting one casualty, that to me signals it's time to throw in the towel.

Ughhh! Yeah, that is rough to take a catastrophic loss like that. Particularly so from a nation that said it was at peace with you.

That said, in dominions, almost anything is possible on the battlefield when the combination of units, spells, etc, is just right. In fact look at the example of the SC (SuperCombatant). There you will have a single fighter able to defeat hundreds of opponents - entire armies - by himself.

But as with all things in dominions, there is no strategy, no unit, no SC, that does not have a counter that can defeat it. If you could give the details of the battle: the units involved, spells, etc, perhaps I can offer some useful comments on tactics that would help you defeat this kind of attack in a future game.

[Sir_Dr_D]

Foodstamp said:
This is a newbie game. I would rather see Vanheim and the other nation your talking about allow you to come to peace terms rather than Ermor throw in the towel.

If this cannot be arranged, maybe allow someone to take over playing Ermor via a substitute. I appreciate your offer, and I appreciate the honorable way in which you dealt with Pangaea, but I would not like to gain provinces by having them handed to me.

If the above suggestions are not suitable, hand your provinces over to another nation that has dealt with your aimably.

I hate to see you go in this game =/, and I hope to be able to play with you in future games if you do decide to truly quit this one.

Diplomacy is part of the game as well. The fact that Ermor wants to hand its lands to you showed you played that part of the game well. This is Ermors last effort in trying to help defeat his enemies. Accept it.

[KissBlade]

Ironhawk said:

Ughhh! Yeah, that is rough to take a catastrophic loss like that. Particularly so from a nation that said it was at peace with you.

That said, in dominions, almost anything is possible on the battlefield when the combination of units, spells, etc, is just right. In fact look at the example of the SC (SuperCombatant). There you will have a single fighter able to defeat hundreds of opponents - entire armies - by himself.

But as with all things in dominions, there is no strategy, no unit, no SC, that does not have a counter that can defeat it. If you could give the details of the battle: the units involved, spells, etc, perhaps I can offer some useful comments on tactics that would help you defeat this kind of attack in a future game.

Might I point out Ironhawk, Whollabug had actually pointed out when he joined that he is NOT a newbie.

[Whollaborg]

As Ermorean senate flees,

Mighty Vanheim despises the decadent senate of Ermor as it flees in hope to save their fat bellies.
Fleeing abroad might give you some years to live, but when true God ascends there is no safe place left for dirty mouths that would like to tarnish the reputation of Vanheim by lowly lies!

What is true is that Ermor attacked us first and thus spelled the doom over themselves voluntarily. Foolish senate would not listen to reason and would not negotiate like a civilized nation would. This barbaric stubborness made them start a war against us.

As the war progressed and senate was shown the true power of our shocktroops they tried to seede to our initial trading proposition but that would not been possible at that time anymore.
More compensation was needed, vanir cannot be humiliated.

We sent a private message and offered Ermorian senate a peace on terms. This proposition would have given Ermor time to recuperate and safety from the strong giants that already eyed upon the Ermor. Foolish senate didn't reply but instead announced that they would flee and leave their underlings to die alone and in vain without their nasty leaders who would make their nation pay in blood the time they needed to pack national gold into their triremes that are now sailing to foreign ports.

Vanheim will offer Ermorean people new leadership that would not abandon them in time of crisis.

In contempt,
-J�rund, the prophet of the True God

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(ooc) Stryke11:
I am in understanding that you are not mixing ingame and outgame messages and i respect that. If i would have gotten to war by two nations with dual bless in the early phase of game i would have had very bad ingame and outofthegame feelings.
I am not sure how well i could roleplay in such a circumstanses as i have never encountered a blessrush against me. (If the current war with Atlantis is not counted.)

Stryke11 you have roleplayed well [img]/threads/images/Graemlins/icon02.gif[/img] as in Dom3 kind of strategygame it seems that not all would like to roleplay, which is voluntary as it's not stated in the current gamesetup.

I hope that in games of future you could show same kind of willpower to just roleplay against me, who have shown contempt "in charcter".
If i were you i wouldn't be sure if i could clearly separate in- and offgame like you seem to be able. This requires strenght to see in what category these ingame nasty words belong.

(ooc) Kissjagon:
When I joined I informed that I had played 5 or so MP games of Dominions 2. No-one mentioned at that point that it might be too much experience for a newbie.

Out of those Dom2 games three were so called blitz-games that lasted only few turns (<20). So if you think that two full MP-games change things and remove my newbie status - so be it. But as these are words and words mean what we believe words to mean - i would still count myself as a newbie.

I am willing to leave the game if majority of players of this game think that i play in wrong company.

Of cource if Ironhawk as the respected host of this game would think the same way i would be more than willing to leave the game, but in that case there might be others as well, who happen to have some MP-experience from Dom2 too...

Let's consider who is a newbie?

Not in contempt,
-Whollaborg

[WSzaboPeter]

Kydorias said:
An offering of truce has been sent to the ruler of Neifelheim over the unwanted skirmish on the Shirak Steppes. Unfortunately the six months of C'Tis inactivity leaves the nation poorly equipped to deal with a determined onslaught of Neifel Giants. Know ye all that should the terms of the truce be rejected by Neifel, the nation of C'Tis will fight honorably to the demise of its last serpent citizen.

Greetings Noble Kydorias,
I accept a truce, but with modifications only.
You offered a six-month truce. I offer you a longer one, since I really don't have any intentions to kill you. The time period should be until my inprisond pretender will be free. Then we will talk about a longer peace, or even alliance. In the time of truce I'm open to any trade discussions.
You offered me 200 Gold and 25 Death Gems. I need neighter, so you can keep it and use it as you wish.
I took Koron's Gate (36) from you, but I will leave there NO forces and you can take it back. We both know why this province is so important for you. In exchange I need two provinces that are far less important for you, but they have strategic importance to me. Those are 30 Black March and 15 Mount Zhiva. And I ask you NOT to take Last Climb from independents. If you agree please tell me as soon as possible.
Thanks a lot,
DreamSlayer

[Foodstamp]

Alright, I wasn't sure the etiquette on such actions. If Ermor does drop out, I will start arranging the ceding of provinces to pangaea.

(In Character)

Recently Pangaea was approached with a proclamation from the peoples of Ermor. The Senate had abandoned the peoples, leaving the nation in turmoil. The people of Ermor have nominated a new leader that brings word of wanting join Pangaea in merriment, forgetting the recent hardship of war versus the powerful Vanir and Jutons.

Pangaea considers itself on neutral terms with both the nations of Vanheim and Neifelheim. We would like for this transition of power to be smooth and without conflict with either nation.

You will find that if Pangaea rules over the former Ermor lands, you will have a trustworthy neighbor that will work to protect the stability of the area. The former Senate of Ermor can attest to this.

[WSzaboPeter]

The Sons of Winter are courious of what the Pangaean could bring to the former Ermorian lands. Until you raise sword (or sickles, or whatever weapons the satyrs and centaurs use) against a giant we will not attack you. By the way you could send some Maenads into my provinces, since the Jotuns would love the seight.

[Whollaborg]

Haa, great jokes our woodland friends start telling, We wellcome thee to the lands of former Ermor. Which are Vanir properity by right and of which we already gifted Jotun giants provinces.

Perhaps you have not found out that your hostile pack of centaurs (10+commander) who were offencively sneaking in our port town were swiftly slaughtered and none of the Vanir perished as usual.

If you wish, please send us more sneaky, backstabbing visitors and find out how our people bringing the true death won't be as clumsy as yours

Cheers,
J�rund, the prophet of True God

[WSzaboPeter]

The Niefel giants now understand the hidden message in Ermor's words. Ermorians wish to give the Panii the province we got as a gift from our Vanir friends? Maybe the old age does it, but that was hard to understand it. Then again, the Sons of Winter could not care less about some tree worshipers, but the very idea of someone taking our precious gift, that very symbol of friendship between Vanheim and Niefelheim... Now that's an outrage.