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Re: MBT's
No Time!
Take the following as it stands. Expect to hear something from the Army concerning what will be our game-built ABRAMS SEP 3 export tanks COMING ONLINE.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world...0e3ea80&ei=15#
TGIF!!
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Re: MBT's
https://x.com/Trotes936897/status/1835698422248272257
Leopard 1A5DK and Leopard 1A5DK1 in Ukraine with Kontact ERA armor and rolled up cope cage netting.
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October 14th, 2024, 09:45 PM
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A little something about our favorite Russian tank and they have only 20 of them of which the threshold was much higher for the OPLOT-M to "join the club"...
https://www.armyrecognition.com/news...s-into-service
https://nationalinterest.org/blog/bu...ont-end-210628
And there are so many more and how many years ago did I bring up the engine issue? You don't build tanks around the engine! !!
This next will show this similar situation existed with a couple of German WWII tanks.
https://tankandafvnews.com/2015/11/1...r-reliability/
But Russia did build an improved T-90M and fielded it a year ago or so as posted.
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October 15th, 2024, 01:36 PM
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Re: MBT's
The Dutch have signed a contract to field a Battalion of LEOPARD 2A8 (46 Units) with an option for another 6 units.
" Allies are expected take delivery of the first new Leopard 2A8 battle tanks rolling off reactivated KNDS production lines end-2025, the state secretary said. " probably closer to early 2026 as Germany will also be getting these tanks.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world...dedb84db5&ei=6
I would hope in the meantime the Netherlands will have in the OOB the LEOPARD 2A6M2 as posted this past February in Page 176/Post 1751 with the following NEW End 2030 or until fully equipped with the LEOPARD 2A8.
Germany is treaty bound (And other documents.) to release those tanks to the Netherlands for defense of their country. Those tanks are assigned to the joint German and Dutch armored unit 414 Tank Battalion (German: Panzerbataillon 414; Dutch: 414 Tankbataljon. currently.
Been suggesting it from the start when they were getting rid of their tanks, I'm glad the Netherlands didn't let me down. Well Don to with the new games END Date!!
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October 15th, 2024, 03:01 PM
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Re: MBT's
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I would hope in the meantime the Netherlands will have in the OOB the LEOPARD 2A6M2 as posted this past February in Page 176/Post 1751 with the following NEW End 2030 or until fully equipped with the LEOPARD 2A8.
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For game purposes, there is NO difference between the 2A6M and 2A6M2
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October 15th, 2024, 09:07 PM
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I would agree with you on that, and it would seem your response further answers my question as well as an " AFRIM" to the Dutch question.
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October 15th, 2024, 09:33 PM
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Re: MBT's
Pat. I have no idea what this is about but that vehicle has been in the Dutch OOB for a couple of years.
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October 16th, 2024, 02:35 AM
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Re: MBT's
Don,
Sorry for the distraction, I obviously missed it somehow.
EDIT: 0248 Found it as Netherlands UNIT 038 LEOPARD 2A6M should not the END date be pushed right to DEC 2030?
None of the references concerning the LEOPARD 2A8 for the Netherlands are even suggesting that there will be any changes to the treaty or other signed agreements so, it would seem the LEOPARD 2A6M would still be made available to the Dutch as required for National Defense.
Just a thought is all.
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Re: MBT's
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Don,
Sorry for the distraction, I obviously missed it somehow.
EDIT: 0248 Found it as Netherlands UNIT 038 LEOPARD 2A6M should not the END date be pushed right to DEC 2030?
None of the references concerning the LEOPARD 2A8 for the Netherlands are even suggesting that there will be any changes to the treaty or other signed agreements so, it would seem the LEOPARD 2A6M would still be made available to the Dutch as required for National Defense.
Just a thought is all.
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Pat
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Pat..... this was already done on our master OOB's for months. Any unit / formation that ended 2025 was changed to 2030 then any units that were slated for retirement between 2025 and 2030 were adjusted........... so naturally it won't show up as 2030 on anyone else's OOB's
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October 21st, 2024, 12:24 AM
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The Russians are confirming the T-14 was Not in the Ukraine.
We ourselves debunked several videos and posts showing them driving around Ukraine.
Further and as recently posted the Ukraine has NEVER seen anywhere near a battlefield or roaming around the countryside. I seriously think they would've sent in a handful of drones to spot for a precision strike or take it out.
Let us not forget the several articles where the Russian Commanders and tank crews wanted nothing to do with them in the field going back to last year late.
For now, and in my opinion for what it's worth out here feel that T-14 at this point in time is in the same situation as when the T-95 and a couple of others within about an 8-year time span were paraded on May Day (Which is all we're really seeing for T-14 overall.)
and they never got fielded which by the way Russia has never formally announced themselves concerning the T-14.
"...the T-14 has faced production delays and manufacturing issues, making it too expensive for active combat roles."
"- Russian Defense Minister Sergey Chemezov confirmed reliance on the more cost-effective T-90 tanks instead. Initial claims by state media about T-14 deployments were debunked, suggesting the Kremlin lacks confidence in its performance against Ukraine’s Western-supplied anti-tank systems."
"-Consequently, the T-14 Armata is viewed as a failed project, unable to meet operational demands amidst heavy losses and logistical challenges."
" In March, Sergey Chemezov, who leads the Russian defense giant Rostec, confirmed prior Western intelligence assessments and our coverage here at The National Interest that the Russian military hasn’t deployed the T-14 Armata tank in Ukraine. "
This article is 2 hours old.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world...bda6ef04&ei=10
This situation would obviously affect the T-15 as well since they share a common chassis and the same engine and components.
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