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Cainehill said:
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Eh dragons seem to suck maybe, but Kiss and Caine, keep in mind the doubled research costs and how difficult it is to get your 2nd castle.
So the dragon is i think the only pretender that can go on expansion on turn 2.
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Nope. Not even close, even looking only at the pretenders available in the demo's five nations. Wyrm, Mother of Monsters, Drakaina, Manticore, possibly Father of Serpents, Destroyer of Worlds, White Bull, Earth Momma.
Some may not be perfect for turn 2 - but by turn 4 or 5, definately. (And I've had a Wyrm take 15 provinces by turn 20.)
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Hm the wyrm has low protection. Only 11, and only 8 defense. So you need to buff him with at least BE and personal luck imho.
But any buff adds encumberance, and unless you have a damage shield the wyrm only kills 2 enemies a turn.
And he costs more than a dragon because you have to buy him at least 1 magic path.
Mother of monsters also needs protection, but thanks to the poison she has a damage shield. And she's cold blooded.
Drakaina has similiar issues as the mother of monsters.
Manticore has no breath attack and horrible protection, so you need to buy lots of buff magic for him.
Father of serpents also has horrible protection and costs 125 already.
The earth momma works, but imho she needs ironskin + summon ep or some items to work, and that is lots of research in dom3.
White bull works i think, so does the deva and the destroyer of worlds. But none of them is imho cheaper than the dragon.