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Shorty January 15th, 2013 04:48 PM

RT: Where'd they come from
 
I cannot make the map show anything but "colours" in this scenario? Neither "contour" nor "contour over colour" will work on any mapsize?

CaptainPellew January 29th, 2013 01:23 AM

Re: RT: Where'd they come from
 
I downloaded the demo and really liked it, but I'm not sure about buying it. It seems no one is talking about this game out here. Doesn't anyone else own it?

CaptainPellew:confused:

Shorty February 8th, 2013 11:42 AM

Re: RT: Where'd they come from
 
What demo are we talking about? Raging Tiger?

CaptainPellew February 13th, 2013 03:35 PM

Re: RT: Where'd they come from
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Shorty (Post 817080)
What demo are we talking about? Raging Tiger?

Yes, the Raging Tiger Demo. It looks pretty good so far, but I don't know much about this series of games yet. In other words, if Raging Tiger is the latest in the Battle Group commander series, or if it is something else entirely.

Regards:
CaptainPellew

Shorty February 16th, 2013 06:47 AM

Re: RT: Where'd they come from
 
Well, the games come in three series, based on the game engine:

BCT
BCT commander

ATF
Armored task force
Raging tiger
The Falklands war
The star and the cresent

AATF
Air assault task force
Battle group commander

Being old infantry man myself (and somewhat anglofile), my favorite game is the Falklands war. Almost entirely infantry, so be prepared for long battles.

ATF is also a great game, with scenarios varying from wooded north Germany to sand dunes of Iraq. Primarely focused on armor.

I am playing RT at the moment. On one side this game has got varying scenarios, with good use of both armored and infantry units. On the other hand there are some tecnicalyties that are annoying – such as tanks that can take ICBM layer after layer from two batteries, but is eventually destroyed by one shot in the back of a TOW missile.
I have two missions where all tasks are met, but the game will not end with success.
Helicopters will not fire on certain enemy dismounts.

TSATC is interesting from historical point of view, but many of the missions are very short – only 60/90 minutes if I remember correctly.

AATF I have yet to play.

Battle group commander is an interesting piece, I hope we get to see more episodes. The scenarios are very varied - some are quickly won; an other is diabolicly difficault.
On the down side – playing a scenario with a infantry company that has no use in the game.

BCT commander has the best collection of scenarios – but also an old engine. If only it could be transfered to the ATF engine.

What to choose depends on what type of combat you want to do – infantry or armor heavy?

Well that is my opinion. Please lets us hear what others think.

Tim Brooks February 20th, 2013 11:56 AM

Re: RT: Where'd they come from
 
Hi Shorty:

Nice synopsis. But one thing you didn't mention:

AATF offers full backwards compatibility. Unlike other wargame series with ProSIM your older titles are never rendered obsolete by the latest and greatest. If you own earlier ATF titles Air Assault Task Force will upgrade those scenarios to its standards. It's like experiencing those games for the very first time, again!

Thanks for talking us up!

Regards,

ACE April 1st, 2013 09:48 AM

Re: RT: Where'd they come from
 
Hi all !

Let's not fotget about "March to Baghdad, Episode 1: Decision at Tallil Air Base".


I have played ATF and TSATC - it was my greatest war game experience ever. Is there any hope for "Thunder & Lightning: The Battles of Operation Desert Storm" and "War in Afghanistan" to be released in the future ? maybe you could sell vehicles/weapons data in your online shop, for scenario building purposes.

Regards


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