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wulfir August 22nd, 2007 06:26 PM

TOTAL WAR 1985
 
1985,
August...

...the Big Showdown in Europe has finally commenced.

In this thread there will be a few scenarios, the majority loosely based on the hypothetical WWIII set-up described in the various books by John Hackett.



�The World Wars were characterised
by the fact that the resources of whole nations
were placed at the disposal of the military,
and that massive losses were accepted in a �total war�.


- Marco Smedberg,
Warfare; from Austerliz to Baghdad






http://server2.uploadit.org/files/op...OTAWAR1985.JPG

wulfir August 22nd, 2007 06:34 PM

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OPERATION STOSS

West Berlin is to be taken in a lightning move by primarily East German forces. In the French sector, paratroopers of the Luftsturmregiment 40 "Willi Saenger" are to assault the Berlin-Tegel Flughafen...

PlasmaKrab August 23rd, 2007 03:35 AM

Re: TOTAL WAR 1985
 
Great, Hackett scenarios! Testing right away!

What do you have on the French sector forces at that point? I once tried a full-scale Berlin battle based on the existing Berlin map, and I ran out of formation slots about half-way...
Five brigades plus reinforcements can do that to a scenario.

wulfir August 23rd, 2007 11:58 AM

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Quote:

PlasmaKrab said:
Great, Hackett scenarios! Testing right away!

To be fair, the OPERATION STOSS scenarios are not quite Hackett based, but there is some material floating around, so I thought it could be fun to include. IIRC Hackett had the WP leave West Berlin more or less untouched...


Quote:

PlasmaKrab said:
What do you have on the French sector forces at that point?

The main army combat formations were, from what I understand, one tank Bn (11th Regiment Chasseurs) and one mech inf Bn (46th Regiment d'Infanterie), supported by an engineer company.

But there were also a number of Misc forces, including the Base Ari�nne 165 at Berlin-Tegel. The actual plans of deployment etc is of course mostly guesswork, but what the h*ll...

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The_Warrior August 24th, 2007 01:54 AM

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You can do Team Yankee battles. Harld Coyle's book is set in Sir John Hackett's stoy of the third world war. It will give you alot more battles. Also, don't forget the Third World War, Untold Story. This is also by Sir John Hackett.

Smersh August 24th, 2007 02:01 AM

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very nice. looking forward to more scenarios.

valo2000 August 24th, 2007 05:24 AM

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one thing i dont know that there is a Airport called Hegel in berlin. we call it Tegel ;P

wulfir August 24th, 2007 07:20 AM

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valo2000 said:
one thing i dont know that there is a Airport called Hegel in berlin. we call it Tegel ;P

Well..., just weeks prior to WWIII the airport was renamed in honour of the great German philosopher Georg Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel.

Originally Immanuel Kant had been suggested, but a popular British comedy group had constructed a song where the ryhme "Immanuel Kant was a real p*ssant" was included, and there was some speculation as to this being the reason why Hegel was chosen in the end. Later events (WWIII) greatly overshadowed the various twists surrunding the renaming of the airport.



No, seriously...., it's a typo. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

narwan August 24th, 2007 09:47 AM

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Hmm, wasn't Hackett the guy who made the dutch look bad in the fight! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

wulfir August 24th, 2007 12:51 PM

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The Dutch..., IIRC there was something about Dutch troopers having too long hair..., but look bad, I dunno - the Danes and Italians get hammered..., so too the Austrians..., the Finns don't even fight...hmm...


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