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Epoletov_SPR April 14th, 2007 05:38 PM

The automatic device for a gun in tanks ?
 
The automatic device for a gun in tanks

Please, explain, how in WinSPMBT the automatic device for a gun is shown on tanks.

For example, "Leclerc" ROF = 8, Russian tanks ROF = 7, American, German tanks ROF = 6 (manually prepare for a gun for a shot).

Probably, there should be a greater difference in quantity of made shots ? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...s/confused.gif

Smersh April 14th, 2007 06:28 PM

Re: The automatic device for a gun in tanks ?
 
The difference on the scale of SP is not noticable.

One other difference between automatic loaders and manual loaders is the size of the crew.

Epoletov_SPR April 14th, 2007 06:36 PM

Re: The automatic device for a gun in tanks ?
 
But in fact there is parameter ROF !


Still there are many various adjustments of the weapon in Mobchack and not only in it, probably. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

Why at French "Leclerc" ROF = 8, probably there the similar automatic device.

Marcello April 15th, 2007 05:08 AM

Re: The automatic device for a gun in tanks ?
 
Epoletov, we have already dealt with this several times in the past. As I remember it the issue is that for the game code the ROF parameter is really important only for artillery units. For the other units having 6 instead of 7 makes almost no difference at all. This because in this case crew training and such parameters have a greater importance. The ability of the crew to operate the controls, lock on targets etc would be a bigger limitation to actual ROF that the sheer number of rounds that can be technically loaded and fired, at least in many circumstances. So I would not say that such approach is illogical.
We also dealt with autoloaders.There is wide gap in speed between the autoloader of the Leclerc and that of the basic T-72, with the T-80 and T-90 being in between. In some circumstances the basic T-72 can be considerably slower than a trained human loader, with reloading times well in excess of ten seconds. As I recall it gets 7 only to compensate some code quirk related to three men crews.

loktarr April 15th, 2007 06:25 AM

Re: The automatic device for a gun in tanks ?
 
In fact the ROF is totally useless unless you use your tank as artillerie. This can happen sometimes: US and French troops did it during fight in France, when engaged in moutain+woods in 1944: shermans where not able to follow the infantery.
The value that gives your in-game max rof is the experience of the crew... I'm not even sure that the ROF is a limit, btw a M1A2, with ROF of 5 can fire more than 5 rounds a turn, provided he has enough experience and is not suppressed.


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