DOUBLE STANDARD!
 

This is just unfair, there's no other word for it.

A few months ago, I took a look at the Horse and Musket demo, was disappointed and confused by the graphics, and posted in the H and M forum, expressing my confusion and disappointment. I explained and addressed my concerns in a lucid and logical fashion, although my criticisms were somewhat harsh. As I recall, I said that the graphics in H and M looked like "something some drunk puked up on the sidewalk outside the homeless shelter". Harsh, yes, but based on actual fact, not some vague claim of promises that we all know were never made.

Harshness aside, my post contained no profanity and no personal attacks of any kind, it was purely a criticism of the product itself.

I was ripped to pieces by the other posters there, and subjected to personal attacks and insults. I posted one light-hearted response, devoid of any reciprocal nastiness at all.

My response was deleted, the thread was closed, and I received letters of reprimand from two different Shrapnel games staffers, each of which was at least as harsh as my original post. In short, it was made clear that I and my opinions were not welcome in that forum.

Now Kagetora comes along and Posts vitriolic attacks on you, Aaron, Shrapnel, SE4 and all its fans, and anyone else who dares to disagree with him. All of this based not on any real-world problem, but on vague claims of alleged promises. You let this guy go on and on for nearly a dozen Posts. Then you go all polite and conciliatory, and even give him a free game.

Why the double standard, Richard? The cynical might suspect it was because he was also embarassing you in the forums of a gaming magazine, so you bought him off to shut him up.

I tell you in all honesty and sincerity, I have nothing but respect and admiration for you, Aaron, Mike Cooney, and all the other folks that are involved with Shrapnel games. But I think there is a real inequity here. I'm not looking for a freebie, and I wouldn't accept one if it were offered. I'm looking for some explanation of why I was treated so much more harshly for a far lesser degree of offense.

Respectfully but unhappily,

Chris Joiner AKA Possum

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I went to school with a couple of twins who's Last name was Joiner. Sorry, off topic, but ironic.

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I see they locked-em out http://www.shrapnelgames.com/ubb/images/icons/icon7.gif

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MUST this continue for forever in a Public forum???? Richard please lock this thread and speak to possum privately. I relly am starting to see these as a black mark on the forum..

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This should not have happenned and I cannot find any email in my box that went to you on this.

Can you privately email me and let me know who emailed you and forward those to me if possible.

Also do you know who closed the thread?

If I did it I do apologize, under no circumstances though should the post have been deleted we don't work that way. Your right it is unfair.

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Richard Arnesen
Director of Covert Ops
Shrapnel Games
http://www.shrapnelgames.com

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I did some more research and this was the day before I left for West Point to work on the Steel Beasts deal with them so I probably was busy as crap.

ALso in your email please let me know what you deleted responce said so I can look into this further. I am definetly not happy about this http://www.shrapnelgames.com/ubb/images/icons/icon9.gif.

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Richard Arnesen
Director of Covert Ops
Shrapnel Games
http://www.shrapnelgames.com

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(self-censored)

Aaron, Richard, I apology and ask your forgiveness. This shall never happen again...

[This message has been edited by PsychoTechFreak (edited 29 May 2001).]

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I don't think Richard will lock you out. For what it is worth Possum, I think the graphics look more like playing a video game after having your eyes dialated. Instead of looking like units of men, it looks like a big blurred Version of the same guy over and over (either that or I'm seeing trails again!!!!)

Still its probably better to resolve this kind of stuff out of the public spotlight. Take care yall - Joe

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Again this is not how we do business. I do not delete Posts and I have yet to ban anyone from our forums.

As far as what I did for Kagetora it has nothing to do with me being in trouble or buying him out. If you saw in the Last thread I had overwhelming support from the community.

However at heart I am a nice guy, probably too nice to be doing this job. And unfourtanetly I will probably catch some flak from my own company for doing this (not too much guys so don't worry about it). Was it necessarily the smartest thing to do, probably not, but at the time I was trying to be fair.

And no you won't get Banned or locked down. I only lock down threads that serve no purpose and I have not resolved this issue with Possum.

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Richard Arnesen
Director of Covert Ops
Shrapnel Games
http://www.shrapnelgames.com

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Richard,

I'm sorry, please don't misunderstand my Last post. Your work is still appreciated and I'm not complaining about SE4, never... (except the probly selective support, but for now I think you are too busy to answer every suggestion)

I was just a little bit upset about the "Lock 'em out, delete them..." Messages. Usually I'm also a nice guy unless something drives me PSYCHO...