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Xanatos April 21st, 2008 03:13 PM

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Is there a list of all magic sites and their effects?...I'd like to see more of those unique ones and learn about them.

Also: anyone have any advice on a good pretender for LA ermor...I usually go Master lich wit 2 EAFW and 2 Nature + 9 death + 6 astral...all scales - 3 (luck is +3) and dom 10.....but I often run into situations in MP games where I have problems with SC's or enemy Pretender SC's....Should I go for a Ghost king or POD instead? i have experimented with these in the past, but always I've accumulated a bunch of afflictions that crippled my pretender...

Another question...if i go Nature 4 - does the Regenerate blessing affect my undead sacred troops, or is it null for undead?

And - does N4 give my pretender (even if he is undead?) Regeneration...as I recall that cuts down the chance for affliction to 1/8th of its normal risk, yes?

Wauthan April 21st, 2008 03:24 PM

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Indeed there is such a list. Follow this link and get the attached file in the first post. http://www.shrapnelcommunity.com/thr...;Number=586140

Yes, a nature blessing do allow your sacred undead to pull themselves back together again, so to speak.

Nope, your Pretender can never bless itself. Picks in nature magic only strengthens an already present regeneration (or one granted by items or spells), but it doesn't grant it. There's a cheap lowlevel nature spell called Personal Regeneration though so this drawback is pretty moot.

Wauthan April 21st, 2008 03:28 PM

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For good solid afvice on LA Ermor, and all the other nations, I recommend this excellent link: http://www.shrapnelcommunity.com/thr...;Number=590616

Ironhawk April 21st, 2008 03:42 PM

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Regeneration (from bless, spells, items, etc) only works on living beings I believe? So most undead, like longdead and soulless cannot regenerate. However, there are some undead like Vampires who are Undead but not Lifeless and thus can regenerate. I'm not sure whether the PoD has the Lifeless tag.

K April 21st, 2008 03:43 PM

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1. Yes.

2. SCs are best dealt with by using spells, or a combo of spells and high attack units with armor negating or armor piercing damage. A few suggestions are Soul Slay + Penetration items, Petrify, Incinerate....the list goes on. Spells with MR checks need penetration items, but there are plenty of killer spells that don't check MR or have their own weird checks (Magic Duel compares base Astral v. base Astral, so if you are an Astral nation you can kill Golem SCs pretty well.)

In general, fighting SC with SCs is wasteful. SCs are for cleaning up piles of regular units and occasionally taking provinces alone.

3. Maybe. Undead with the Lifeless tag do not regenerate. Undead without the Lifeless tag include banes, vampires, and a few others. I believe that MA Ermor has some ethereal undead sacred that are not Lifeless.

4. No.

Xanatos April 21st, 2008 03:44 PM

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Hey Wauthan Thank you for the advice...I'm not sure how to get to the magic sites list through your first link, the link i saw there was for some zipped files that I don't know how to open.

K April 21st, 2008 03:44 PM

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PS. Lifeless units can be healed if they use Lifedrain weapons.

Xanatos April 21st, 2008 03:52 PM

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so a regeneration blessing would regenerate my undead sacreds...but not help much on creating an SC affliction immunity/resistance.

Sombre April 21st, 2008 04:04 PM

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Provided the bug with blessing undead is fixed.

Xanatos April 21st, 2008 04:04 PM

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theres a bug for blessing undead?!..jees

Sombre April 21st, 2008 04:26 PM

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There used to be. Namely that sacred undead couldn't be successfully blessed. I think it's fixed now, but I don't know for sure. I know the devs were made aware of it several patches ago and that the fix was easy.

sansanjuan April 21st, 2008 04:33 PM

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Xanatos said:
Hey Wauthan Thank you for the advice...I'm not sure how to get to the magic sites list through your first link, the link i saw there was for some zipped files that I don't know how to open.

For the Zip... http://www.7-zip.org/

For the spreadsheet... Go to http://www.openoffice.org/ and get openoffice.


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Xanatos April 21st, 2008 04:43 PM

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the spreadsheet program i used was unable to open those files, and I have winzip to unzip files....openoffice will be able to read those?

Wauthan April 21st, 2008 05:15 PM

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the spreadsheet program i used was unable to open those files, and I have winzip to unzip files....openoffice will be able to read those?

Yep, it's what I use. Heh, reading through this thread and it seems like the odds are stacked against taking Nature bless for LA Ermor.

Sorry about the bad advice in my first post. I forgot that I've modded the Knights of the Unholy Sepulchre and removed the lifeless tag on them. Felt those units were hard enough to keep alive as it was.

Edi April 21st, 2008 05:41 PM

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Xanatos, see the FAQ for a brief explanation of what the Dom3 DB is. Open Office reads the files, but there's also a static version for Excel in the zip file.

Xanatos April 21st, 2008 06:53 PM

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i didn't see the Crown of Shadows on that Database..whats the info on that site.

Edi April 22nd, 2008 01:35 AM

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There is no such site, unless it was added in a mod. The Crown of Darkness is included in there.

OMAC April 22nd, 2008 02:08 AM

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Wauthan said:
Indeed there is such a list. Follow this link and get the attached file in the first post. http://www.shrapnelcommunity.com/thr...;Number=586140

Say, does this have hero lists?

Saulot April 22nd, 2008 02:37 AM

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All units are listed in the database and heroes will have an identifier listing them as a hero, but there isn't a seperate list of heroes.

Xanatos April 22nd, 2008 02:14 PM

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aye thats the one i mean't...it does 40% thaumaturgy bonus and 10% disease spread, mountain only site..yes? d4 + mage required to search it.?...ive seen dozens of messages saying its rumored that thing was nearby but never was I able to find it...can remote search spells find it.?

Edi April 22nd, 2008 02:21 PM

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Xanatos said:
aye thats the one i mean't...it does 40% thaumaturgy bonus and 10% disease spread, mountain only site..yes? d4 + mage required to search it.?...ive seen dozens of messages saying its rumored that thing was nearby but never was I able to find it...can remote search spells find it.?

That's flavor text for one of the big plague events. It doesn't mean the site is in the province and the event does not create it there.

VedalkenBear April 22nd, 2008 02:28 PM

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BTW, I can confirm that the Undead Blessing bug has indeed been fixed as of the current patch.


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