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Welp, that Last game went over pretty well. So I'm thinking of starting another game. As always, something along the neighborhood of 4-5 hours a day, to run on a fairly consistent schedule, barring intermittent emergencies for somebody, to the death!

Who's in? Navrunner? Condors? Want some revenge? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

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not ready for a rematch yet, looking at other races

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I keep being tempted by one of these epics. Post details, and perhaps I'll lay in plenty of supplies and join one http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

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I may be up for a game sometime in the near future to test my skills and see how they work in a MP game. It would be a good test as you seem to be quite a formidable player, Norfleet.

However, it will have to wait a few weeks at least until I can get 4-5 hours at a time to commit to play. Even then, I would only be available from 5pm-10pm Eastern on weekdays and most anytime during the morning and afternoon on the weekends.

One question I do have is about how long does it take for each turn normally? I know it must vary widely depending on how far into the game and other factors, but what is it by average? I am just curious as to the pace and whether I would be able to plan/think fast enough to keep up http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif .

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Heh. Maybe. It's only my second game against other forumites.

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Works for me. Maybe you'll be able to catch the game or two after the one I'm trying to organize now, then.

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">How long....well, an early game turn, is primarily bounded by others. I've seen people take up to 5 minutes on turn 2, which I think is rather unusually long, given that turn 2 takes *ME* about 15 seconds. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

As a good rule of thumb, turn N will take (N+5)/2 minutes to complete, on average.

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Yes I would be interested. I am not sure if "revenge" would be the goal.

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">You don't want revenge for the second time I've beaten you now? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

What side do you want to call this time? Me? I'm Ermor again. Maybe I'll take Soul Gate for a spin, though.

Mostly, I just called it that because "The Revenge" sounds cool. I already have a game running called "The New Game: Ultimate Death", so I figured "The New Game: The Revenge" would sound nice.

[ March 10, 2004, 02:29: Message edited by: Norfleet ]

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Ooohohoho, ermor!? >:}

I don't get it though. Can you give me some info on how this is going to work? I don't want to do PBEM. and it looks like this is a network game, so how is this going to work?

It looks like we will take turns when we are all Online like a blitz.

[ March 10, 2004, 05:27: Message edited by: Argitoth ]

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Good, because I hate PBEM. I don't even have email.

And yes, it's a network game. It works exactly like a blitz. We may even PLAY it as a Marathon-blitz, if nobody has any impinging time issues.

Basically, we start the game at the appointed time, and we play until somebody has to go. Then we pick up again the next day. And so on, until only one man remains standing. And be warned that I fight to the bitter end. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Oooh, good. Better for me when I have Undead Mastery researched.

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I take it you're going to be C'tis? That'll make for an interestingly amusing tug-of-war, if everyone is casting undead mastery back and forth. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">If this happened, about half of the undead each time would be turned to a different side so eventually, you'd have a battlefield of undead that looked like a giant free for all.

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Actually, I think it would take all of about 1, maybe 2, castings to turn the battle into a giant, roiling, free-for-all melee, since the undead converted would essentially be random, and the entire mess would instantly devolve into a huge mass as the mob turns on each other. I've seen it happen. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

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Okay, so, somebody suggest a time.

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i love to be everyone elses beyatch...but there's no way i could do it for hours for consistent days, i have a son to take care of (3 months old).

if you were to consider a once a week deal for this one or in the future please accept my willingness to fail http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

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7pm EST friday.

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Okay, we've got a 7 EST Friday. Anyone object to that time?

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what map and settings are you thinking of using?

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Illwinter/Torvak's World map, Indy-6, Magic-75, Random Rare, Rename enabled.

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So, who all is on the victim list now?

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i don't think you should do events rare.

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Well, if you insist. It's more of an ingrained habit than anything else, as I've always had a firm distrust of random events from other games, and even on "rare", there's an awful lot of them: I've always felt the game played faster and focussed more on the actual strategery if every turn didn't drag out into an extended nuclear waste disposal program or turn into an extended crapshoot of who got hosed by a random event today. Besides, most of them are beneficial to me anyway, as I'm Turmoil and Luck. I don't even mind the population killers. Losing 1/4th of my 0 population doesn't really bother me. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

It should be noted that playing on a large map already greatly increases the probability of random events greatly. Even on rare, I rarely go turns without 2 or 3 randoms.

[ March 11, 2004, 04:35: Message edited by: Norfleet ]

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normally, I'd be against rare randoms, but Norfleet makes some good points - given the size of the map, and also helping to lessen the chance of completely messing up a game start.

However, I just checked out the map, and in two of the three games I started in a one territory island w/out any link to any other land mass. That would be a game breaker, IMO, given I was a completely non-water nation.

The other time I started in Ireland http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Yeah, that's a pain. We used to have a problem with this, and with a few players in the game, we used to end up declaring 3 or 4 mulligans before everyone had a start position that didn't suck.

The problem seems to have subsided with the innovative solution of flagging some of the really crappy starting positions nostart. That shouldn't happen anymore as a result.

Game update: The start of the game will have to be delayed an hour to 2000 EST, because the server op won't be back on that day until then and can't start the game until he returns. Once the game has started, however, subsequent days can run at 1900 EST just fine.

The server will be brought up tomorrow for the start of sign-in. Would all participating please declare their national pick at this time?

I'll be playing Ermor. As usual.

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Well, the server has been brought up for sign-in.

Can we get a call of who's in and what they're going to play?

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i'll have to bow out.

but if you keep track of these things i think saturday's 9am-4 CST i'm good and Sunday's 9am - 3 i'm usually good

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how do we connect to the server if we don't have ip and port?

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Oh, right, silly me.

kludgemush.com 10811

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I am in.
I will take one of the races that are left tomorrow before the game starts. I am still playing around with a few races.


Added:
I think we may get more players if we start on Saturday.

[ March 11, 2004, 22:34: Message edited by: navrunner ]

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Maybe. But I think that the moment, the obstacle to sign-ins is more the fact that the abstainers don't wish to devote a large chunk of uninterrupted time on a daily basis.

Also, while we might get more people to sign in if we pushed the game up a day, we might also get more people dropping OUT of the game if it overruns the weekend. I'll keep that under consideration for next game, though.

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Well, here's what we have so far:

Me - Ermor
Argitoth - C'tis(?)
Tujin - Pangaea or Caelum (still deciding)
Navrunner - Unspecified

Anyone else in? So far, nobody else has actually uploaded their pretenders yet. Kickoff's at 2000 EST. Don't miss it!

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i may be a late entry, not looking good but its a possiblity

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It's a network game I say. I newer played net D2. I think I would like to play. Machaka is my favorite, but Pangaea is my 2nd favorite.

[ March 12, 2004, 14:31: Message edited by: DarkTears ]

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If the starting time is at 2000 EST, then I can probably make it. I'll take Arcoscephale and upload my pretender only if I'm going to be able to play.

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">8pm EST? I'm up for that, and I want C'tis.

Something is horribly wrong with my router and I won't be able to upload my pretender until i can fix the problem. Be patient, though.

Please send me an e-mail at Argitoth@hotmail.com for the time being for any information I might need because I won't be able to return to Shrapnel but I will be able to meet in the #dominions channel in irc.gamesurge.net

I already have the port and IP, but I highly suggest we meet on IRC.

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Heh. What an odd Argitoth. He can check his email, and use IRC, but can't get simple-TCP to a single port to work.

That's what you get for using a crappy router, instead of a proper Linux box!

Looks like we'll be having quite the party.

[ March 12, 2004, 17:25: Message edited by: Norfleet ]

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I do believe I'll join - or actually, I can't quite believe it. Question though - random rare or common? It will definately make a difference to pretender design. I'll be playing Vanheim.

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Rare. The World map is enormously huge enough that even on rare events, you're probably going to get your full quota of 3 events a round. I always have, even on an Order-3 race, randoms rare race.

What rare *DOES* reduce is the possibility that your temple/lab/home province BURNS TO THE GROUND inside of the first 3 turns of the game, leaving you totally jacked. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

And hey, either way works out in *MY* favor. I'm luck 3, and I'm going to burn down all my provinces anyway. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

[ March 12, 2004, 19:20: Message edited by: Norfleet ]

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So, here's the present preliminary roll call:

Me: Ermor
Tujin: Caelum or Pangaea (undecided)
Argitoth: C'tis
Condors: Ulm (probably)
Navrunner: Unspecified(?)
Truper: Vanheim
DarkTears: Machaka(?)
Graeme: Arco

My, regular full house this game.

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If tujin chooses caelum, i'll take pangea. Lots of people in the game sounds like fun.

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Pretender uploaded. Further question: has it been customary to use irc or some messenger service to communicate during these epics?

[ March 12, 2004, 20:27: Message edited by: Truper ]

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Not really. Mostly because I am devoid of IRC, because being on IRC has always filled me with an urge to do severe bodily harm to the others on the channel. I think I might have been on the wrong channels, though. Either way, I lack an IRC client. Does anyone have a Linux IRC client that is not too much work to set up and directions how to operate it?

Messenger, on the other hand, I consider to be beneath my dignity to touch. If I absolutely MUST contact somebody who's only point of contact is through IM, I dispatch a minion (aka. "flunky" or "*****"), to deliver my message.

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Trillian is a great (and free) IRC client for Windows. I have no idea what's available for linux.

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Never heard of it. I use Windoze for games only. Since Windoze will be occupied with the important task of playing Dominions II, where I, as Ermor, struggle valiantly not to be overly late despite the massive amount of pencils that much be pushed, a task I manage to pull off amazingly well, ALT-TABBING constantly is not an option. And my screen is too small to play in Windowed mode without looking like crap. I could get a bigger monitor, but do you have any idea how long it takes to order a custom-built bulletproof monitor? Plus then I wouldn't have enough space on my desk to put other monitors.

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">What's your second choice if Pangaea is taken?

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I have illwinters world map. How come it does not matter which one, do clients only need the image file?

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">R'lyeh, I think.

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I quit, sorry. Maybe next time. For the others: Good Luck and Have Fun!

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Well, better now than later.

So, current roll call:

Me: Ermor
Tujin: Caelum or Pangaea (undecided)
Argitoth: C'tis(?)
Condors: Ulm(?)
Navrunner: Unspecified(?)
Truper: Vanheim (signed in)
Graeme: Arco(?)

Still pretty packed. And still a lot of people yet to sign up. Try to get your sign-ins done before about 1930 EST.

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Clients only need an image file, and both the Torvakian map and the Illwinter map are compatible with all World map files. Since they're compatible TGAs, it doesn't matter which one you have. It's all personal preference.