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Man is now set to AI. My forces are dwindling and my crone that held the Mother Oak is dead. I will not supply a vote on what to do with the game, but if rollback is impossible, I would say the game is over due to cheating.

I did manage to burn down two of Jotunheim's Temples though with just my remaining kamikaze forces. :P

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Again, let me remind everyone...
only I can set someone AI. You can tell the game to set you AI but it will not take unless I change the game settings to allow that nation to be AI.
Options are:
request AI
arrange a sub
stale (twice) at which time it becomes my choice

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icic.. The nation of Man is defeated and hasn't the military strength to be effective--The AI can accomplish any task that I could perform. Please set Man to AI.

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Some new players like to get a taste of MP play by having a chance to watch major battles, even if they are only doing the "honorable death" thing. But subs seem few on this forum so to keep things moving I will let the Man AI setting go thru.

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I vote for 3, naturally.

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I vote for 1.

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Wow, miss the thread for two days and a million things happen. What a terrible thing to have happen to a game, especially one that is labeled as a newbie game. As for my two cents on the matter, I'd say it's highly unlikely Ry'leh purposely sabotaged themselves, considering the amount of trading that went back and forth between me and them.

I vote for option 3, as while I'm not in the greatest position in this game, I still have a few strategies I'd like to try out. That is, if AI Ry'leh doesn't wipe the floor with me, I've already got some invasion forces pushing their way inwards on me.

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If you are aware (or looked at) Man's turn you will find that I have already done as much as I really could in terms of seeking the "honorable death", and that the remainder is merely academic. Most of my units are diseased and my army is composed of my researchers and a few remaining longbowmen. My crone which held the Mother Oak enchantment died last turn, so I no longer have a gem income to distribute to allies, and there are no significant attackable adjacent provinces in which I can do damage.

I razed two of Jotunheim's temples and have done some economic damage, the remains of my army will not last more than 2 turns and will not likely do anything significant from this point forward which is why I requested the AI transfer.

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My scouts can confirm this. His entire remaining army basically crashed through the Jotun front line and trashed the neighborhood. It was pretty amazing for having a negligible screening force.

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I just came in because there were claims that access to the game might have been hacked and I glanced over the posts to look about this.

Two things: First, hacks on Dom3 game servers are not really feasible through dictionary or brute force attacks. That doesn't mean that it's impossible, just that I can't imagine one would bother with this. So if you have picked a password, and a good one, your own password should be pretty secure. Problems arise if the game is using a master password, and therefore I have always advised to not use master passwords in networked games. It is possible to gain access to the master password by every player in the game. I assume that Gandalf is using a master password here.

Second, if somebody inspects your turns through your password or through the master password, then there will be no complications if he does this before you hand in your turn orders. If he inspects the turn after you have uploaded your turn order, without you logging in again afterwards, then the turn orders that you gave could get overwritten with a blank. What is being downloaded from the network server are always only the reports from last turn and never your orders for the current turn. So the case that somebody mostly gave the same orders like you do with some bogus changed ones is very unlikely, unless that person had access to the files with your turn orders, too, and this is something that only the server administrator would have. It might be that somebody has been spying on you, but not that he only made small changes.

There can be very strange effects like this when turn files and turn orders don't really match well together, like it would be the case with a rehost of a previous turn, of course.

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So, where do we stand? Are we continuing, or calling it?

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I'm continuing, if only for practice with lategame that I literally have not had yet. Bashing the AI's skull in with two or three tarts does NOT count. I want to see how I fare against an actual player - especially since looking at the other two games I'm in, there's no guarantee I'll be a significant power by MIDgame there.

Sure, the squids' implosion has blown game balance all to hell... but it's still practice.

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As far as I know the game is continuing with AIs

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Ashdod salutes our fallen foe, the Shinuyama. They fought to the last man, each trying to kill one more Ashdod. We look forward to seeing those Corrosion Staves again in this game.

Edit: ... and I salute Otic, who played until the last turn, even when it was clear that he would not prevail. You had me sweating through a few great battles.

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Due to a summer brownout all games on the Dom3Minions.com server have been reset.
This has restarted the timer for this turn. I will not surprise anyone with a manual fix on what is showing (unless for some reason the group desires it)

Sorry about that. Blame global warming.

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Where do we stand on this, in particular ashdod? Agartha says he is staying out of the water, but I have not seen this confirmed by the other players.

I just want to be sure we all are on the same page.

Too bad BG quit, he still has a very powerful position.

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I am playing as normal - going into the water. As far as I know R'leyh is attacking Argatha too, and they did not want to stay out. I figured there was enough other players going AI and stale-ing turns to make it even-ish.

R'leyh should not have quit, the only thing that he lost was a whole bunch of gems that he could have made back. I think he would have won if he stuck it out due to his gem income and research.

R'leyh is giving me some trouble due to the items and scripts that BG left behind.

As it stands C'tis is taking the lead, with stong globals, gem income, research, and quiet borders.

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I wasn't REALLY expecting you to stay landbound and felt like a bit of an *** for even casting the vote. ^_^

I'll be taking a pretty reasonable hit in the next few turns. My main southern army has Bandar Log's cornered in a fort, so something's gonna give.

It's gonna be pretty epic.

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Ah, so we ARE allowed to go in the water? Alright then. I haven't been able to due to the huge wave of summons the AI has been throwing at me, but good to know once I clear them off my land.

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As far as I could tell the vote was

a) 1
b) 1
c) 1

so inconclusive.

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Something wrong with the game maybe. It counted down to the deadline, and now it is showing 36 hrs again, with no change in turn.

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Ah, I counted 2 for C, one being me and one being someone else.

It hasn't affected me either way, these 100+ troll armies are getting tiresome.

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Im afraid that he server had to reboot, again. The timer was started over.

I could fix that but in general its a pain since it has to be fixed back after the turn hosts.

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OK. Thanks. I guess I'll have to deal with real life for a change.

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Well he doesn't count cause he was almost out of the game anyway :) Also we had another vote for a) from someone not even playing :)

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Water Province vote: I abstain, although I feel that Ashdod will be the main beneficiary of access to water.

Absence: I will make a turn today (I hope) but will not be able to make my next turn until next Wednesday evening (EST). I will not have access to a Dom3 computer. I would prefer to hold, but if Gandelf (God of Games) decides otherwise, please don't put me on AI.

Ryleh: I also think BG had a winning hand, but not a slam dunk as before. I guess it would be too much work.

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Ive learned not to sweat the restarts. I used to try and fix the timer which was a major pita. But most of the games host on quickhost anyway. And if they dont then it needs examined for other reasons.

One of my present code-projects is a way to keep a better eye on which games continually time-out.

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hold?

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I havent seen any comments on it

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If players agree, I would like to extend turns to 48 hrs from now on. Thanks.

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Agree to 48hr.

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Hellooo! Is this thing on? two or three days is good. This day and a half thing is difficult.

Three players staled last turn. Abysia and I want to have our war!

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Life... going... crazy....

An extension is totally fine with me.

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OK, 5 players with 3 votes in favor of extension so its ok with me.
I will try to catch it just after hosting so its not too extreme, and reset it to 48 hour timeouts.

As far as stales, the last 3 stats files show this:::
http://game.dom3minions.com/games/stackers/

1.stats.txt:Agartha didn't play this turn
1.stats.txt:C'tis didn't play this turn
1.stats.txt:Jotunheim didn't play this turn

2.stats.txt:Agartha didn't play this turn
2.stats.txt:Jotunheim didn't play this turn

3.stats.txt:Agartha didn't play this turn
3.stats.txt:Abysia didn't play this turn
3.stats.txt:Jotunheim didn't play this turn

Re: STACKERS, newbie game, (started)
 

Hmmm... Agartha and Jotun look to be missing in action. C'tis must be hating that! ;)

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Duh....

I said a week ago that I would not be able to submit moves for about a week and asked for a hold - nothing. except I have 4 or 5 stales.

Despite my unfortunate experience, I still have a generous heart and am comfortable with any extension/hold requested. RL prevails.

I should also thank my neighbors for not taking advantage of the situation. And thank Gandelf for not AIing Jotunheim.

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You did speak up.
Going AI, or getting a Substitute, arent the only options. Some prefer to take the chance. Set their research, monthly castings, maximize their build queues, and hope to return to a really big bank account. I hope it works out for you.

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Sorry Jorus, I missed the hold request. I'm fine with a hold for what it is worth, but I see you submitted a turn. Only Agartha is missing

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One of my mad giants has taken the month off to "Attend Funeral"

Love this game.

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whose? BG?

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Any chance of moving the timer to 72 hrs? These turns are taking a crazy amount of time...

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I would like longer turns as well. Approve approve approve


C'tis just needs to build his tarts and research :)

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We might also want to consider setting Agartha to AI.

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Bump forlonger turns and AI setting for agartha. Having fun with my war of fire, but making lots of mistakes.

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Seeing as Greyjoy is keeping his nose out of the forums - its ok everyone from Apotheosis forgives you... best to keep Arg player controlled - atleast we are guaranteed 48hrs between turns.

72 would be nice though...

You may think you are doing well Ashdod, but letting you slaughter my armies is part of a plan 'so cunning, that you could stick a tail on it and call it a weasle.'

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I don't think I am doing that well. You would have a lot less provinces if I was. I keep killing those demons, but they come right back. Meanwhile my few troops are wounded, diseased, and naked.

That mis-begotton battle at Shinyama a couple turns ago, was a particularly bad mistake - I thought the fort was empty :)

Very epic - the few good men vs. the evil hoards.

I am picturing a few battered men finally killing the last demon, leaning on a their torn war banner and broken swords. They look up as the sun rises, and off in the distance thousands of lizardmen are marching towards them.

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Well it looks like C'tis has been awol for 10ish turns now so thats a bummer. I have had my arse seriously kicked by Ashdod so when i'm done, its an Ashdod C'tis match up - which of course won't be fun due to C'tis absence...

What to do from here?

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We were thinking of setting C'tis to AI. Then it would be a three-way fight to the finish. Even though C'tis would be AI, it is starting from a strong position.

Good luck in the capital fight.

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Sounds like your all sorted then!

Good luck in the capital fight
You too. Should be a good scrap.

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Gandolf,

Could you set C'tis to AI. He has been absent for many turns. Thanks.