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Spendios January 3rd, 2009 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by BesucherXia (Post 663559)
IAt least in Chinese tales those shrimps and crabs minions are not very competitive warriors, that's part of the reason why I doubt they will truly help improving Jomon. Making them national units seems to be more reasonable for me.

Could you please give us some more details about these monsters in mythology ? It looks interesting.

Tifone January 3rd, 2009 11:41 AM

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1st january 2009
* Shark Warrior
* Shrimp Soldier
* Crab General

eastsnow January 3rd, 2009 12:27 PM

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<a href="http://www.ycool.com/photo.php?uid=1001092&paid=1272149&id=27417955"><i mg src="http://node2.foto.ycstatic.com/200901/04/3/27417955.jpg" border="0" /></a>

MaxWilson January 3rd, 2009 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Aezeal (Post 663630)
I doubt adding summons will severly effect a nations power, better change the recruitables a bit since that is the problem usually.

Summons can affect a nation's power mainly by adding magic diversity or thug chassises, which are mid- or late-game considerations. The only summons I know of that affects early-ish game power is Umbrals and Magma Children for Agartha. Which are awesome, BTW.

-Max

Tifone January 3rd, 2009 03:11 PM

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Unfortunately Umbrals are made mid-game at best in CBM :(

Gandalf Parker January 3rd, 2009 03:13 PM

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Personally I think there are too many summons.
Dont get me wrong. I LOVE playing with them. But it seems like 90% of the national spells are summons. Summons are probably easier and more fun to come up with but it seems as if some very thematic spells fitting each nation could be scattered into other areas of magic.

MaxWilson January 3rd, 2009 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Tifone (Post 663690)
Unfortunately Umbrals are made mid-game at best in CBM :(

:) I play vanilla. Well, plus some random houserules to boost boring units (vampires are ethereal, for instance--which makes vampire attack events really fun ;) ).

-Max

chrispedersen January 3rd, 2009 03:58 PM

Re: New patch soon?
 
Yeah, level 7 iirc with CBM - which I think is one level too high really judging agartha on its merits.

But I agree with you max on magma children.

Tifone January 3rd, 2009 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by chrispedersen (Post 663702)
Yeah, level 7 iirc with CBM - which I think is one level too high really judging agartha on its merits.

You took it from my mouth ;)

BesucherXia January 3rd, 2009 07:26 PM

Re: New patch soon?
 
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Originally Posted by Spendios (Post 663638)
Quote:

Originally Posted by BesucherXia (Post 663559)
IAt least in Chinese tales those shrimps and crabs minions are not very competitive warriors, that's part of the reason why I doubt they will truly help improving Jomon. Making them national units seems to be more reasonable for me.

Could you please give us some more details about these monsters in mythology ? It looks interesting.

Well, actually I do not think they could be called "monsters". They are more like regular soldiers of the Sea Palace in Chinese tales, and are always beaten easily by heroes like flies though in great number. Their roles are so minor that I can hardly recall any detail description of them...
In Chinese speech, there is even a phase about "shrimp soldiers and crab generals" to imply soldiers of poor quality, just because they always mean nothing for the Chinese heroes in mythology.

Anyway, the photo posted by eastsnow is an interesting image. I am also looking forward to KO's work.


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