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ese-aSH July 3rd, 2009 05:34 AM

Re: Final Newbie Question (or compilation of questions!)
 
Hi all,

A quick question on assasination : if I set an assassin on 'assasinate' on a province where lies a stealthy ennemy commander (a scout for instance), will the assasination occur ?

vfb July 3rd, 2009 05:56 AM

Re: Final Newbie Question (or compilation of questions!)
 
You can't use an assassin to assassinate an enemy unit that is hiding or sneaking.

ese-aSH July 3rd, 2009 06:22 AM

Re: Final Newbie Question (or compilation of questions!)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by vfb (Post 699399)
You can't use an assassin to assassinate an enemy unit that is hiding or sneaking.

this is sad :(

so the only ways to kill a stealthy commander are :
- patrolling the province (must own the province though) and hope I will find him.
- kill him if he is imprudent enough to reveal himself to fight.

:doh:

vfb July 3rd, 2009 06:48 AM

Re: Final Newbie Question (or compilation of questions!)
 
You can also use Mind Hunt to kill commanders that are sneaking or hiding.

thejeff July 3rd, 2009 07:37 AM

Re: Final Newbie Question (or compilation of questions!)
 
Blood: Blood magic is not usually battle magic. It's more useful to forge items and summon creatures. The blood Pans are expensive to use for blood hunting, but even a few of them hunting can bring in far more slaves than you will have gems of other types. Forge and give them Sanguine Dowsing Rods to bring in more. Then start summoning. For troops, Demon Knights work well with Pangaea. Forging Blood Stones brings in more Earth gems and boosts your Pans earth magic. Experiment. Many of the high end blood summons can be turned into SCs.

Magic: There's not much you can do to control what your mages cast after the script runs out. It sounds like what's happening is that when the enemy retreats, they get out of range of any attack spells your Theurgs have and they've already cast the available buff spells. Since their orders are to cast, they cast blink. If you research longer range spells for them, they'll probably stop. Or battlefield summons. My air mages love to cast phantasmal warrior after their scripts run out.


Communion: Path increases due to communions aren't shown. If the slaves are getting fatigue when the masters cast, it should be working fine.

happygeek July 6th, 2009 10:13 AM

Re: Final Newbie Question (or compilation of questions!)
 
OK thank you! Not doing well with Blood yet, will leave that for a bit right now. ANd you were right -- my mages stopped casting Blink once I researched some better stuff. THanks!

I can't seem to find a document I stumbled on last week -- I am pretty sure it is not that Dom3DB xl spreadsheet I find easily, but it was a spreadsheet that "merely" listed all of the nations and their national units. I think it may have had pretenders there too. It was grouped according to nations. I cannot seem to find it, and my searches are sadly turning up that DomDB. Does anyone know what I mean and where I can find it? Thank you!!

vfb July 6th, 2009 06:01 PM

Re: Final Newbie Question (or compilation of questions!)
 
It's entirely possible that there is another document with this info, but you can find it in the "Army List" tab of Edi's Dom3 DB spreadsheet (the search result that is turning up for you). See the "Units" and "Commanders" columns.

happygeek July 8th, 2009 03:56 AM

Re: Final Newbie Question (or compilation of questions!)
 
No, sorry, that is not what I meant. I saw those sections, and it is not what I mean -- those list the unit numbers for the nations, not an overview of those units' stats. What I had seen was also color-coded, a slightly different color for each nation, and I think the whole spreadsheet only had 3 tabs or so. I hope I am not mistaken and what I had seen was for Dominions 2.

Edi July 8th, 2009 05:38 AM

Re: Final Newbie Question (or compilation of questions!)
 
Sunray's site has a version like you describe for Dom3, but it's several patches out of date.

happygeek July 8th, 2009 04:17 PM

Re: Final Newbie Question (or compilation of questions!)
 
I think I found that now, thank you Edi.
I have this CBM installed now, so everything is different anyway. I am not sure I like the CBM, even though I am certain it is great for everyone -- seems to make summoning much more powerful, so that national troops are less important. But maybe I need to play more!

I made three games, one with each Era, each with all nations, so that I can go in and hit "r" and see what everyone has. What confuses me is that R'lyeh has exactly the same setup for MA and LA -- or is my game screwed up?


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