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Shovah32 May 14th, 2007 04:18 PM

Re: Awesome units/spells
 
I tend to stick with experienced mages when using Gifts from heaven for that very reason but thanks for pointing that out max, its a very valid point.

lch May 14th, 2007 05:07 PM

Re: Awesome units/spells
 
Gift from the Heavens =/= Gift of Reason! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/eek.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

PvK May 14th, 2007 06:36 PM

Re: Awesome units/spells
 
In theory, Gifts From Heaven can equate to Gift Of Reason...

... if it lands on a feeble-minded mage who can survive bodily destruction in a way which happens to cure the affliction.

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MaxWilson May 14th, 2007 08:29 PM

Re: Awesome units/spells
 
Sorry, what was that about Gift of Reason? I'm confused.

-Max

Salamander8 May 14th, 2007 08:38 PM

Re: Awesome units/spells
 
I have several favorites.

The Firbolg from Awaken Sleeper saved my bacon in my EA R'Lyeh SP game I finished recently. Fairly tough with decent leadership and the standard ability really made them shine for me.

Dai Onis are just cool! Big and nasty with a good amount of magic and able to throw fire and get dirty in melee, on top of having to be 'killed' twice make these guys rock. Being a demon for anti-demon spells, and the gluttony sting a little (I am not overly concerned about the -research since I don't make these guys for reading http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif) , but these issues are minor to me compared to their value.

Mandahas from the Lanka national spell. These guys served me well. Similiar to my Dai Oni comments above and even worse gluttons, and have that nasty fire vulnerability, but so good in so many ways.

Demon Knights also have rocked for me. High protection and morale combined with a hard-hitting punch. I prefer Infernal Crusade to get a bunch at once over the single summons of course.

Vastness'. All I can say is:Buwahahaha!

lch May 14th, 2007 08:58 PM

Re: Awesome units/spells
 
Quote:

MaxWilson said:
Sorry, what was that about Gift of Reason? I'm confused.

Oh, heh, nevermind. I had lots of tabs open and was reading a thread which centered on GoR, then skipped to this one and thought that Shovah got it wrong, it seems. Nevermind, I'm just confused myself... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...s/confused.gif

vfb May 16th, 2007 01:31 AM

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Quote:

vfb said:
Leech rocks. Sure, it comes in at research level 7, but what else are you going to research when you've gotten the Const you want, if you are Mictlan or Lanka?

Because of the fatigue restoration in the spell, a lowly B1 Mictlan Priest can get off two of these in a row and still have only 88 fatigue.

It does 25 points of AN damage, with no MR roll, has AoE 1, decent range (25), and 100 precision. So it's a great anti-SC, anti-thug, anti-heim spell.

Does anyone know if the Leech "Life Drain" damage affects undead, demons, or lifeless beings?

I couldn't find the answer to my question, so I used MaxWilson's handy easyspell.dm to check.

Result with a Mictlan Priest:

Being Undead does not provide immunity to Leech. (Priest killed a black servant with Leech.)
Being Lifeless does provide immunity to Leech. (Priest refused to follow script, cast summon imp at golem instead.)

So Life Drain attacks work against all units except Lifeless units. Makes sense!

bananafish May 17th, 2007 01:04 PM

Re: Awesome units/spells
 
Fang and Fadgamarast (sp?) are my 2 favorite units. Seduce them or charm them, and then steal their scripted commands.

Then you can load up a bunch of cheapy scouts w/ longbows of accuracy or ethereal crossbows and send 'em in against big armies w/ mages

and similarly have flying commanders take out enemy commanders.

lch May 17th, 2007 03:39 PM

Re: Awesome units/spells
 
"Steal" their scripted commands? What should that be good for?

Shovah32 May 17th, 2007 03:43 PM

Re: Awesome units/spells
 
I believe they are some of the rare units with fire commander(so if you save that command you can copy it to other commanders) just like the dark knight who comes with bogus has the script attack commanders(if you get that on an SC who dosnt buff your enemy is screwed).


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