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don_Pablo March 30th, 2012 10:41 PM

Re: Giants and Dwarves [MA; CBM ; Noob friendly] [Full 12/12]
 
Congrat to Chief-Capricorn.
That will be painful.

dojango March 30th, 2012 11:15 PM

Re: Giants and Dwarves [MA; CBM ; Noob friendly] [Full 12/12]
 
I've resolved my computer difficulties and am sending in my turns on schedule, so don't worry about switching me to AI. I been using the turns to tweak my scripts to cause maximum damage to my conquerors.

Zywack March 31st, 2012 09:45 AM

Re: Giants and Dwarves [MA; CBM ; Noob friendly] [Full 12/12]
 
Yeah... I noticed.

Well played on that one! I now officially hate pretty much earthquake-immune Machakan mages!

legowarrior March 31st, 2012 10:33 AM

Re: Giants and Dwarves [MA; CBM ; Noob friendly] [Full 12/12]
 
It certain is getting very interesting.

earcaraxe April 1st, 2012 06:09 AM

Re: Giants and Dwarves [MA; CBM ; Noob friendly] [Full 12/12]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Zywack (Post 800343)
Yeah... I noticed.

Well played on that one! I now officially hate pretty much earthquake-immune Machakan mages!

why r they immune? transforming to spider instead of dying?

earcaraxe April 1st, 2012 06:18 AM

Re: Giants and Dwarves [MA; CBM ; Noob friendly] [Full 12/12]
 
i hvae never played machaka, dont know how their shapeshifting works. all of them can? intentionally too? do they retain their magic? can they transform back?

parone April 1st, 2012 06:50 AM

Re: Giants and Dwarves [MA; CBM ; Noob friendly] [Full 12/12]
 
i know the mages transform back.

dojango April 1st, 2012 02:19 PM

Re: Giants and Dwarves [MA; CBM ; Noob friendly] [Full 12/12]
 
the Machakan mages are like the jaguar warriors or skinshifters; they change into spiders instead of dying, and change back after the battle is over (if they survive). Unlike Mictlan's turkeys or shinuyama's crazy cat ladies, they can't change at will.

Also, going AI, good game, sorry I couldn't crush you all beneath my spider's feet.

mattyburn7 April 1st, 2012 09:51 PM

Re: Giants and Dwarves [MA; CBM ; Noob friendly] [Full 12/12]
 
Ashdod is no more. Congratulations to Ulm for stomping out the Giants. Please be kind to the enslaved population.

Zywack April 2nd, 2012 07:45 AM

Re: Giants and Dwarves [MA; CBM ; Noob friendly] [Full 12/12]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by earcaraxe (Post 800403)
i hvae never played machaka, dont know how their shapeshifting works. all of them can? intentionally too? do they retain their magic? can they transform back?

They retain 50% of their casting abilities. Their spider form have 55 hit points, so you can have a bunch of them cast earthquakes and you don't have to be worried about losing any of them. Plus, your various spiders have high HP so your armies will be in a better state than your opponents (beside giants maybe) if you actually decide to send an actual army along in the battle instead of a hit-and-run squad.

The problems though is that your mages that can turn into spiders are capital-only and that going into spider state means losing 100% of your base hit points so afflictions are quite likely. So it's not a game-breaking strategy or anything, but... It's certainly extremely nasty in the right circumstances (or from my point of view, wrong circumstances).

I can't speak to Ulm of course, but I can vouch that friendly and peaceful Shinuyama will be extremely kind to the Machakan population, except for a strict "no spider allowed" policy of course. Hopefully Ulm will be doing the same!

Anyway, good game Machaka and Ashdod! Looking foward to play with you in some other game in the future hopefully!


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