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I lowered the AP to 13.. the rest of their stats are just like barbs except the weaponskills so not that superhuman imho..
I'm doubting the gold cost of everything in the nation a bit.. barbs are 13 gc and these 13 gc dervish are obviously better.. but.. like a sacred jag warrior is MUCH better for it's coin, being sacred and having 2 forms.

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Endo about the descriptions.. You'll just have to look at them all once we've got a somewhat final version and then you can just change everything you want and send it back to me for the upload.

And one thing... how can we think of doing a desert nation and NOT use sandworms (and/or sandworm riders)? It's almost criminal!

a huge mouth in the ground (think: dune 2 game), flying could pose as burrowing and trample as swallowing....

please give this serious thought because it will be very hard for me to ignore this.

IT would be a high level summon with few item slots (in case of GoR) huge HP, regen, weakness to shock, immunity to heat. average MR. Largest size the game allows (can you go above 6)?, with largest sprites.

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The Dervish are like EA Tien Chi Warriors of the Five Elements in Spring (when they have 150% their normal hp) and with one star of experience, and with better weapons. Not sacred and without the resistances, of course, but similar. (EDIT: only the sheiks have 18 hps, my mistake).

Machakan warriors have base encumberance 2, almost all other humans have 3.
MA Eriu Fir Bolg have 13 hp, str 11, prec 12 and magres 13.
MA Pythium Emerald Guards have att 13, def 12, hp 13 str 12

LA Jomon's Yamabushi are the best human fighters I could find:
hp 11, str 11, att 14, def 13, mor 11, magres 12, prec 11, base move 2/12. Sacred, capital-only.

This still puts the dervish in as better than all these combined... With Arrow Fend, you can't even use bows to kill them. This is EA, though, and they die to magic just like everything else. It's just that they shouldn't be too easy to rush with, so don't make them too cheap.

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all non-city pplz have enc 2.. barbs, lion tribe warriors etc

a knight of the stone has att 16 def 14

markata have a def of 14 http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif\

but I agree that the att/def are too high.. I'll make it att 13/ def 13
AP 13
and gc 15 then

but in the end they die just as easily as all creatures with low prot.. (their modified armor gives only 8 prot and no shield)

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Don't forget Arrow Fend. With both Air and Fire, Djinnibad will probably use both that and Flaming Arrows. Alternatively, Marble Warriors and later Army of X spells give them good prot.

The dervish commander would make a good thug, but the genies will probably be much better for that.

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I think the efriti screams thug.. with a protection and a fire shield and nearly max slots.. but he doesn't have THAT many hp and vanilla he certainly can't take on indie's (I tried in test games, usually kills 0 cus I don't script and h casts as a loser so maybe that shouldn't count)

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yeah from time to time I'm thinking I'm making the nation way to powerfull.. but then I think of niefelheim or vans or jaguar warriors.. and then I can't really say this nation will be much stronger. (The sacreds are very good too though.. but looooowwww on HP)

Then again I could always tone things down http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif

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Better make them right first time, isn't it? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif
And as for Vans - well, we have genies, aren't we? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif
As for Shai-hulud - it's completely different tale. Maybe a special theme for him could be appropriate. Otherwise, just make him a Pretender - He deserves it! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...es/biggrin.gif But in what respect will he be different from Wyrm we all know & love? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...ies/tongue.gif

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well it would be nice if he could be bigger and swallow pplz whole http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif

but I'd like him as a summons http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif

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This sounds cool; anywhere I can d/l the whole thing at once?