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BigJMoney September 8th, 2006 02:01 PM

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How is Mictlan divided across the ages, or are they? Also, besides new summons have their been any basic changes/additions to them, as a nation?

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Endoperez September 8th, 2006 02:15 PM

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BigJMoney said:
How is Mictlan divided across the ages, or are they? Also, besides new summons have their been any basic changes/additions to them, as a nation?

They have sorcerers who can turn into turkeys, are one of the few nations that can summon Couatls, can recruit Couatls in proper ages, and MA Mictlan isn't a Blood nation. You know, Lawgiver and all that crap. In Late Age, Atlantians who escaped the devastation of their underwater empire to the swamps near Mictlan found themselves being worshipped as gods of rain, liked the idea, and quickly re-instated the Blood Cult, and we'll get to bathe in crimson rivers again.

EDIT: Oh, and while the automatic tax management isn't Mictlan-only, it helps them a bit more than most other nations.

BigJMoney September 8th, 2006 02:40 PM

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TURN INTO TURKEYS....(?)

Do they retain the "spread Dominion only through sacrifice" through EA and LA?

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Endoperez September 8th, 2006 03:03 PM

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BigJMoney said:
TURN INTO TURKEYS....(?)

Do they retain the "spread Dominion only through sacrifice" through EA and LA?


1) Yes. They'll fly.

2) EA and LA, but obviously not MA.

JaydedOne September 8th, 2006 03:15 PM

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So, out of curiosity, what's the balance theory in terms of Mictlan dominion? What's so great about their ability to sacrifice-spread that makes it preferable to the normal form of Dominion push? Or is it balanced some other way, perhaps through the power of Blood magic?

I know that Mictlan was generally considered a weaker kingdom -because- of the lack of Dominion spread. I like that it uses a unique mechanic, but I'm curious as to how/if its balance has been addressed in Dom3.

quantum_mechani September 8th, 2006 03:32 PM

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I know that Mictlan was generally considered a weaker kingdom -because- of the lack of Dominion spread.

That's far from true, it was easily in the top 5 nations.

JaydedOne September 8th, 2006 03:35 PM

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This was two years ago and was more of a consensus-based opinion than it was a well-documented breakdown of mechanics opinion. I'm more than open to the idea that over time it proved to be a powerful nation, but I'd like to see more explanation therein -- what made it one of the top 5? Some further discussion of how DomIII's changes will affect Mictlan would also be welcome.

For my part, I loved their theme. I just couldn't play them worth a lick. ;-)

quantum_mechani September 8th, 2006 03:54 PM

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JaydedOne said:
This was two years ago and was more of a consensus-based opinion than it was a well-documented breakdown of mechanics opinion. I'm more than open to the idea that over time it proved to be a powerful nation, but I'd like to see more explanation therein -- what made it one of the top 5? Some further discussion of how DomIII's changes will affect Mictlan would also be welcome.

For my part, I loved their theme. I just couldn't play them worth a lick. ;-)

Well, they really had two big things going for them- some of the best sacred troops in the game, and the best blood hunters. Given that blood magic and blesses are two of the most powerful (some would say overpowered) tactics in dom2, it was a powerful combination.

So early game, their saceds were a terror with f9w9 and middle and late game they could dominate with devils, fiends and unique blood scs. The power of their blood hunters was even better when combined with all their free patrollers tribal kings generated.

As for how this has changed in dom3, they are weaker in some ways (mostly due to some blood magic nerfs), but stronger in others (new unique summons), so overall I would still rate them a top-notch nation.

Nerfix September 8th, 2006 03:59 PM

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I want to see the holy atlantians the late mictlanese worship.

Amos September 8th, 2006 07:37 PM

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I'm gonna use Virtue's flambeau for my sprites.


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