Re: Power Beyond Comprehension aka "My power is still raising!" newbie game - Open
 

FYI everyone, Jimbo is also admin in this game. Best to send PMs to both admins to achieve the best result.

Re: Power Beyond Comprehension aka "My power is still raising!" newbie game - Open
 

Sorry to be a bother, but I can't open the link to the map (site is blocked, I think?, Great Firewall of China and all...). Could someone please post it on the forum as a .zip file so I can download it directly from here?

Re: Power Beyond Comprehension aka "My power is still raising!" newbie game - Open
 

I think with this game, now that we have started if at all possible it should be a case of FIPO (F**** It Push On), just to try and get some momentum back. So I'll look for a sub for Caelum. If we can't find one, would people rather turn non-starters AI, or do a restart?

I figure that this map is good for as few as 12. Main things to consider are:
* If you have any water nations, you want at least two (or maybe to set part of the ocean to be "dead seas", e.g. no value, just to equalise opportunities)
* There are a few land bridges around, so if you end up for example on that crescent shaped island chain to the west of the map, you still have a way to walk to the mainland (and the mainland has a way to walk to you, too .....).

BBG: Will upload the map file and attach to this thread shortly, when I am back home (rather than using a 3g mobile connection, which is a bit flakey).

Re: Power Beyond Comprehension aka "My power is still raising!" newbie game - Open
 

I would prefer a reset to having AIs. AIs go down way to fast to a human player, and give a big advantage to whomever starts next to them.

Re: Power Beyond Comprehension aka "My power is still raising!" newbie game - Open
 

Aye, it's turn one. A restart won't hurt anyone.

Re: Power Beyond Comprehension aka "My power is still raising!" newbie game - Open
 

mapzip

Re: Power Beyond Comprehension aka "My power is still raising!" newbie game - Open
 

Seconded. Definitely don't want to start with AI.

Re: Power Beyond Comprehension aka "My power is still raising!" newbie game - Open
 

Here is the map as an attachment.

Noted about AIs, we'll do a restart if needed instead.

Re: Power Beyond Comprehension aka "My power is still raising!" newbie game - Open
 

If you don't have an AI, then it's a big advantage to whoever starts with the biggest field of eatable indies.

AI is slightly harder to kill than indies, plus a restart would be annoying and kill some people's interest which could lead to snowball effect.

Re: Power Beyond Comprehension aka "My power is still raising!" newbie game - Open
 

AIs are tougher than indies, but they still dies quickly, and the result is that one player gets an enemy capital and all the advantages that entails (+300-500 gold/turn and 6 gems/turn, and a free fort) very early on. It happened to me last game- as Gath, I ate an AI'd LA Ulm in 6 turns, and those extra bonuses kept me in play waaaayyyy later than I should have been given the number of stupid mistakes I made.

But even if you were right that it would be a disadvantage to start next to one, the issue would still be one of unfairness, and that issue is solved by not having AIs at all. So I really think a reset is best if people dont get their turns in.